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You're talking about "thinking" models which are mostly regular LLMs trained to output a "<thinking></thinking>" token delimiter before the answer that will be shown to the user, and that's a clever use of the Chain of Thought idea. All of which I'm completely familiar with.

GP was saying

> That would be true of non-iterative models that just emit an output from beginning to end.

Which suggests that there are

- "iterative" models

which

- do not output "from beginning to end"

which AFAIK is science-fiction.

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The disagreement here seems to be a confusion between the pure model behavior and the behavior that users experience, which is the model wrapped in a harness. It’s normal and natural now to refer to the whole system as ‘the model’ informally, even though that is technically not accurate. That ship sailed a while ago.

Since the LLM is now designed to run in a harness, it’s really not even wrong any more.

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don't think it's that deep mate. just sloppy wording on GP's part.
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