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If you are worried about the ethics of using a company laptop to do personal work, you might be taking it a bit far, what damage does this do to the company?

If you are worried about the company claiming rights over your personal work, then it is prudent.

by ChrisMarshallNY15 hours ago|

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1) It really had nothing to do with what damage it does to the company. It’s a long story, but I take personal Integrity fairly seriously. It was about how I felt about it, inside. As I progressed, in my self-development, “cash register” honestly became more important.

2) That’s definitely a valid point. I have worked on free/open-source code for most of my adult life. For a long time, it was for my own use, but I started publishing code for use by others, and provenance became a much more important coefficient.

by sqquima16 hours ago|

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I think that the new version of this is using your work's LLM account (potentially more powerful) to do personal work

by inlined13 hours ago|

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That seems absolutely crazy to do. One could argue that the marginal cost to work for using a work laptop is zero and the work is still yours (still beyond the risk I’m willing to take). Using a company’s AI account is literally using the company’s resources for a personal project. There is no plausible case where they don’t own it.

by swiftcoder9 hours ago|

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> Using a company’s AI account is literally using the company’s resources for a personal project. There is no plausible case where they don’t own it.

Honestly, of the two scenarios, this one is the more likely to fall on the employee's side.

We haven't really tested the legal precedent for ownership of LLM outputs very thoroughly yet, and I'm willing to bet a bunch of us still have employment contracts that haven't been updated to cover LLM use...

by davidw16 hours ago|

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That potentially consumes a lot more resources than the very negligible marginal wear and tear that using a work computer would cause.

by BowBun16 hours ago|

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There was a brief moment in all the hullabaloo that this went unnoticed :X

by vel0city16 hours ago|

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As for what damage you do, it kind of depends on what you're doing. But in the end you're exposing your work machine to patterns and processes outside your normal job duties, potentially exposing it and the data/access it has to additional risks.

It might be overly paranoid depending on what the circumstances are, it might be a real concern as well.

by JohnMakin16 hours ago|

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It’s not just wrong, you’re potentially allowing anything you do on that work computer to 1) be owned by the company and 2) be discoverable in court. it’s amazing how many it orgs are so lax with this. personal/work devices should and always be entirely separate. BYOD is a really bad crutch and a potential compliance nightmare timebomb for all parties.

by refurb15 hours ago|

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I did the same. Nothing nefarious on my work laptop, but I used it for websurfing (avoiding questionable sites), booking trips, etc.

Then I realized how stupid that was even though my employer was fine with and was never strict with how a work laptop is used.

I realized not only did I not want my work to know what I'm doing on my personal time, the risk of cross-contamination and being accused of stealing confidential documents or a personal text making it look like I'm doing something wrong is too high.

I bought my own cell phone and laptop and now never use my work equipment for anything but work. Not worth the risk.

by breppp13 hours ago|

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> I realized not only did I not want my work to know what I'm doing on my personal time, the risk of cross-contamination and being accused of stealing confidential documents or a personal text making it look like I'm doing something wrong is too high.

If they wrongfully accuse you of that, isn't it a place you should leave in any case?

by refurb12 hours ago|

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Name me a large corporation who "trusts" their employees. I'd pretty much be forced into unemployment if trust was a requirement.

by mbreese12 hours ago|

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I would guess you're probably right. But if you are accused of something, not having a separate non-work computer/phone could make that process worse.