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by ozgung12 hours ago |
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upvoteby sumeno7 hours ago|
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> It's a shame all these very picky recruitment processes and 'culture' of these giant companies didn't care about ethics and morality.

Oh, it absolutely does, just not in the direction that's good for society. OpenAI (as one example) didn't become like this by accident, it was intentional. Sam Altman isn't going to hire ethical leadership for his company, they would just get in his way.

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upvoteby nrmitchi5 hours ago|
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Software people want to be “engineers” when it’s prestigious and (financially) beneficial, but avoid the actual classification when it comes with industry standards of behaviour.
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upvoteby overgard2 hours ago|
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Not me, at this point I would be perfectly happy with a licensing board.
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upvoteby Tarq0n6 hours ago|
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Ethics are probably internalized long before someone commits to an engineering career. I'm not sure they can be taught later.
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upvoteby foldr6 hours ago|
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This is obviously true to a large extent, but it is also weirdly necessary to explain basic ethical precepts to a surprisingly large number of otherwise well-educated people. Believe it or not, a significant number of people simple don’t know that it’s unethical to, e.g. exfiltrate code or data from a former employer. Making it clear that this is an ethical line may have some value.
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upvoteby latexr11 hours ago|
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> I think a mandatory first thing for any engineer is to learn, understand and commit for life to the Ethics of their profession.

That’ll never happen with the current incentives. Programming is too easy to get started with and too well-paid to not attract unethical people who are only interested in money.

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upvoteby whywhywhywhy5 hours ago|
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> understand and commit for life to the Ethics of their profession

Nah this is just pushed on you to disempower you. If you take trade secrets elsewhere lawyers will be used to attack you.

Speaking of lawyers when they move practices they take their IP with them, funny that.

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upvoteby sumedh6 hours ago|
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If the CEO goes not care about ethics why should the employees?
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upvoteby behnamoh4 hours ago|
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> I think a mandatory first thing for any engineer is to learn, understand and commit for life to the Ethics of their profession. It's a shame all these very picky recruitment processes and 'culture' of these giant companies didn't care about ethics and morality.

For some reason, the ethics followed by Asians, especially the Chinese are not fully compatible with the ethics of the west. Sometimes Chinese people call it being smart to circumvent or bypass the rules, something that would be called cheating in the west.

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