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by vrganj8 hours ago |
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upvoteby ikari_pl8 hours ago|
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correction: the number must go up FASTER. if it just keeps going up same as yesterday, we will lose investors
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upvoteby philipallstar7 hours ago|
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You don't need to optimise for the market. The market is the optimising machine. Get in its way with slow regulators or subsidies or bailouts and you get all the problems.
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upvoteby raverbashing3 hours ago|
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Markets optimize for the current gradient, not for the local maxima

Markets will make you climb a hill ignoring it ends on a cliff end

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upvoteby BobaFloutist3 hours ago|
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Sounds like a local maximum to me. Did you maybe mean a global maximum?
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upvoteby michaelmrose2 hours ago|
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Why would this even be so. It's not magic it's just people doing stupid people things often to maximize short term factors. It only gets long-term planning insofar as embedded agents do. One of the things agents do is use incentives to inspire behaviour that is conta individuals short term incentives to achieve behaviour that contributes to long-term success.

Not only are many individual agents aligned with short term interests they often either can't because they will be pushed out by short term thinkers or literally benefit from net harm to all. America mostly being composed of the rich not the masses voting with their wallets.

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upvoteby vrganj6 hours ago|
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Heh sure, it's great at optimizing.

The problem is it's an optimizing function for the rich getting richer, not for the good of society, not for reducing human suffering, not even, y'know, the survival of the human race.

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upvoteby fartfeatures8 hours ago|
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Redundancy is just waste wearing a trench coat etc etc.
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upvoteby matchbok36 hours ago|
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Well, for the most part this is actually true. Taking care of the exceptions is the hard part.

Also, "climate catastrophe" is not a thing.

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upvoteby vrganj6 hours ago|
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>Also, "climate catastrophe" is not a thing.

It takes a deep ideological commitment to close ones eyes to the reality in front of us.

Our planet is literally dying.

The oceans are boiling [0], marine life is dying [1]. Land close to the water will be land under water soon [2]. The ice caps are melting and setting free all sorts of diseases. [3]

Large parts of our planet on fire all the time now, here's one from Australia from this year [4], but I'm sure you've read about wildfires in Australia last year, California every year, Greece last year etc etc.

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jan/09/profound...

[1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-026-03013-5

[2] https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-025-02299-w

[3] https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/could-microbes-l...

[4] https://phys.org/news/2026-01-australia-declares-state-disas...

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upvoteby matchbok35 hours ago|
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It is quite sad how doomerism has taken so many people. Our planet cannot "die", it is not a person. Take a deep breath!
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upvoteby lompad4 hours ago|
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This feels like deliberately misunderstanding.

Obviously the planet won't die. The current biodiversity and the civilization depending on it however might.

In my country, streets are literally melting now, because they were never built for temperatures this high. We had 5000 heat deaths within 2 weeks. Temperatures never seen before in almost 250 years of consistent measurements of weather and temperature.

It's bad. And the data is available for everybody, including you, to see.

E.g. here, they've got tons of raw data available too (german): https://www.dwd.de/DE/leistungen/zeitreihen/zeitreihen.html

Don't know what you see there - but it sure does look like an exponential curve, doesn't it?

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upvoteby michaelmrose2 hours ago|
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It actually can die but more accurately it can also become far less amenable to human thriving and kill off the majority of other species both of which appear to be happening
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upvoteby vrganj4 hours ago|
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Sure, the planet can't die. But the people and animals on it can.

But I have a feeling you knew what I meant and are just being deliberately obtuse.

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upvoteby axus2 hours ago|
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Sometimes we hate incorrect usage of the word "literally" as much as we hate apathy to a billion people suffering.

The Gaia hypothesis is science fiction compared to climate catastrophe, which is real.

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