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But which one - SMS/RCS? iMessage? WhatsApp? Signal? Telegram? Discord?
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Funny, every time I've joined a new group for dancing or art classes or DnD or anything it's always 100% of the time a WhatsApp group, no questions asked. (This is in Ireland).

Never occurred to me that Americans wouldn't have a common group chat app everyone uses. Do Americans not all use iMessage, since pretty much everybody has an iPhone there?

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Around 58% of American smartphone users are iPhone. It's a lot, but not enough to be universal. In my family there's 5 iPhone users and 4 Android users, amusingly similar to the national ratio.

Apple has famously made its strategy to use iMessage to enforce exclusivity. If you want to reach everyone, it's not iMessage. And Whatsapp in the US is worse, closer to 1/3.

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What people miss about the US phone market is that while it's almost 60% iPhones, the vast majority of the top half of the income spectrum use them. I'm not sure if it's the same as it was a decade ago, but being excluded from iMessage group chats was a real exclusionary move for many teenagers.
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That's a weird perspective. Certainly not everyone has an iPhone. As for other messaging apps, I also see widespread use of GroupMe for certain domains like sports teams. Some clubs also run their own Slack channels.
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Americans primarily use iMessage/SMS/RCS. You only need one messaging app and everyone has it pre-installed on both iOS and Android.

WhatsApp does not solve any problems for the typical American user. Most Americans don't install WhatsApp unless they spend a lot of time overseas some place where it is required to do anything. Even international group chats seem to be more Discord-based in recent years.

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What I like about WhatsApp is that I don't need a Google account to use it on the computer. I don't use Google messages or even a Google account on my android phone. So I have no RCS and I don't even look at SMS.
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>Do Americans not all use iMessage, since pretty much everybody has an iPhone there?

I'm Irish and travel back and forth a lot. First, not everyone has iPhones, Android has 40% of the market.

Older generations use Facebook to manage their clubs. I'm increasingly seeing Whatsapp and occasionally Signal for younger and more tech-savvy social circles. Facebook is non-existent in sub 35 year olds. Its just taking longer to switch over (or away from) Facebook given how tech savvy older folks are here compared to Ireland.

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at least in the US, most people are fine with iMessage/SMS since

* pretty early on the vast majority of phone plans started bundling unlimited text messaging, which IIRC was a big motivator for using messaging apps abroad

* because of the vast scale of the country, domestic coverage results in no roaming for the places Americans spend most of their time, unlike in Europe where there are multitudes of countries you'd be passing in a one to two hour flight. Roaming charges in the EU were only abolished in 2022, late enough that everybody has settled on apps as the best way to manage that now.

* many American plans extend unlimited messaging to Canada and Mexico, the two likeliest places that Americans would go to abroad

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I'm probably the wrong person to answer since I don't and never have used any social media, but it seems like groups here mostly use Instagram.

Or just iMessage with fallback to SMS for those not on iPhones. Unlike most of the rest of the world, iPhones dominate in the USA.

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When I ran a student society we used an email mailing list.

You can have two if necessary, one only for announcements and one for discussion.

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This tends to run into problems with people not actually reading their email, especially when the messages are falsely classified as spam. That might not be a problem if all the members are on the same school mail server but it's problematic for general usage.
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Many people don't read their email anymore. When I send an email I often have to send a text message to the person telling them I sent an email or they won't see it.
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> Many people don't read their email anymore.

I don't see how that would work as in many jurisdictions, email is an accepted legal way to communicate between a company and a customer. So when you don't year your email that's like not reading your snail mail in the 90s. It might go well for some time, until you miss that one message about a late payment or something...

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A large number of services that send various billing etc things via snail mail and email also send text messages. The other part of this is that almost everything is automated these days for most people. Bill payment etc happens automagically. Most necessary notifications occur via phone apps.

Ignoring email works just fine, as evidenced by the fact that the majority of people I know don't check email unless it is for their work. Zero impact on their lives. It is the same with snail mail. I think I check my snail mail 6-8 times per year mostly so that the letter box doesn't physically overflow with junk.

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WhatsApp is paramount here in Spain. Telegram a strong second. The rest non-existent. Though I use discord for global reach interest groups. Never for local communities. Small ones are always on WhatsApp. Big ones usually telegram.
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Exactly this.

Plus the notifications for chat groups are basically:

- show me everything

- don't notify me at all

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Discord is a bit better about that with "pings"
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I think there is less cost to being in multiple chat platforms than multiple social media platforms.
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Whatsapp, that’s the one everyone uses
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E-Mail! :)
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Whatever the group owner picks, same as it's always been.

No one cares about the actual choice, only that it is made.

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> No one cares about the actual choice, only that it is made.

If the actual choice requires me to install an app then I care quite a lot and will probably decline to join in.

I don't think that I am the only one who feels this way.

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Then life moves on without you in the club.

Unless they are chosing something super obscure and sketchy, most club members are going to be fine with the leader just saying, we're picking whatsapp, either join or dont.

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I have Messager app fatigue at this point (where I live).

- Doctors offices and official services use SMS.

- Some of my close family and friends use Signal (on my pressure).

- The distant boomers use Facebook Messenger

- With the younger people they use Snapchat.

- Almost everyone else in the country uses Whatsapp as that's the dominant messaging app.

- My friends who live in Berlin use Telegram

- Online communities for tinkering and foss projects require Discord.

God I miss the 2000s.

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> God I miss the 2000s.

Exactly! Having to check 27 different places for messages (also add individual sites like linkedin, etc, where people message), it is completely ridiculous.

Just send me email. It's universal, standard, no corporation owns it (thus no corportation can shut me out unlike facebook or all the proprietary solutions).

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Pidgin had it so good. Have you tried Beeper?

https://www.beeper.com/

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