I have a functional Pi config, mostly self-made (it has everything I want, incl. subagents, web search, a /btw command, and other misc. addons), and my system prompt is ~3k.
replyExactly. It’s minimal to start but the sky is the limit at the other end. I love the plugability of Pi.
replyWould you mind sharing?
replyOh-my-pi has more tools than claude and opencode, and uses them much more efficiently.
my favorites are /collab and the gortex mcp
replyI tried using omp, and really like the interface, but I found it used tokens much much quicker than the Claude cli. Some simple tasks would use all the session tokens in less than an hour, as where I could get easily get 3-4 hours with Claude. Both set to use opus 4.8 auto effort. I tried tweaking the models for agents down to haiku and sonnet in omp, but didn't notice any real difference in the speed tokens were being used.
replyIt's easy to add using plugins.
replyWhat do you miss? I ask because I do some heavy work with pi + GLM 5.2 (using opencode Go subscription) and my workflow is plan -> implement.
> It's easy to add using plugins.
replySure, but you have to add almost everything, no? It deliberately only comes with read, write, edit, and bash. My point wasn't that you can't add stuff, but that I'd just rather use an harness that's a bit more full featured from the start.
(Pi is a bit like old 3D printing where fettling the printer to work is a central part of the hobby. I'd rather just buy a Prusa.)
I'd like to understand what features you're referring to that are missing from base-install Pi CLI.
replyI use Pi and love it, but the base install is extremely minimal (a handful of tools, no subagents, etc.). That’s on purpose. Sure, you can add more with packages, but that’s not the base install.
replyThe main ones missed immediately were web access/search. Then the to-do list features (it was a nice surprise to try OpenCode and see this working immediately.). There were a couple of other niggles but it was a few months ago. Also, this may not be common, but it seemed to struggle to edit effectively (driven by Qwen 3.6 35b/27b) and often rewrote whole files instead.
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