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by BrunoBernardino18 hours ago |

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by andai3 hours ago|

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Nice, cool project.

Is Monero legal in EU? I heard something about them banning private cryptos including Monero a while back but I don't know what the situation is now. (I think it might just be that exchanges are not allowed to offer it anymore?)

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by JK-Swizzle7 hours ago|

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It looks good, but one of the big selling points to me with Kagi is them having their own index. It seems like you guys are working on that, but right now it sounds more like a search aggregator rather than a search engine.

You also mention not using the source for commercial use or distribution, is that only relevant before it becomes AGPL?

I am also struggling to find how to activate the 2h trial, so have not been able to test it out.

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by BrunoBernardino6 hours ago|

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Thank you for your comments!

We have an index, it's just not very big, yet. We had a major setback last month with a bug (for less than 24h, the crawler didn't respect robots.txt) and had to delete it entirely, and have been slowly rebuilding it.

You're correct the commercial use is only not allowed before the AGPL comes into play.

You should be able to click on the "top up" link (top or bottom) and see an option for a captcha ("click to prove you're a human"). If you don't, reach out via email (don't share your account number) and I'll give you a voucher for a couple of days.

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by andai3 hours ago|

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Interesting. How much does it cost to build a search index in current year? Also, how do you get around the fact that everyone's blocking bots?

I've been thinking of making a "small web" indexer so I'm curious about that. I'm seeing even tiny websites being behind CloudFlare, Anubis etc. these days. (And everyone complaining they're getting hammered by mysterious distributed HTTP traffic!)

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by JK-Swizzle2 hours ago|

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I have been working on an indexer for myself using data from common crawl. They do all the leg work and just host the outcome.

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by JK-Swizzle2 hours ago|

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That’s on me, didn’t see the text explaining it above the captcha.

I’ll give it a shot. Always happy to see some competition in the market. And I love the idea of handing out the source after a year.

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by helloakariq14 hours ago|

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Very cool! How long have you been working on this? How did you acquire your customers?

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by BrunoBernardino13 hours ago|

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Thanks! We've been working on it since late last year, only really announced it here in February or March, I think (I'd have to check). Cold emailing some privacy-minded folks and posting here and in other privacy-focused forums like Privacy Guides (that were recommended to us after cold emailing people).

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by agumonkey13 hours ago|

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Did you work in this space before ?

interesting project, good luck

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by BrunoBernardino12 hours ago|

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Not public-facing search engines, but internal ones and privacy-focused software, yes. Thanks!

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by phaser15 hours ago|

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I love the idea. How do you stay competitive with the search results of, let's say, DDG? have you considered enabling an API for subscribers? Or selling an enterprise tier subsctription that comes with API?

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by BrunoBernardino13 hours ago|

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Thanks! We offer many search providers, so we're not tied to any specific style of results, and our customers tend to really appreciate that!

Also, we do offer an API (check the FAQ), no need for different subscription tiers. Keeping it simple.

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by redwood8 hours ago|

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As someone unfamiliar with Kagi I encourage you not to describe yourself as a Kagi alternative but instead start with what you are doing first and foremost

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by kmoser6 hours ago|

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Especially because some of us used Kagi back when it was an e-commerce payment processor, and that's what comes to mind whenever I see the name.

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by BrunoBernardino7 hours ago|

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Thanks! Do you mean on this HN thread? On the website we do this:

> PRIVATE SEARCH YOU CONTROL

> Search without ads or tracking

> Uruky is a private search engine focused on personalization, not an ecosystem. > EU-based. No surveillance capitalism.

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by robrenaud7 hours ago|

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How do you get personalization without surveillance?

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by BrunoBernardino7 hours ago|

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This is my bad. We've heard a few people complain that the word "personalization" has been adopted by the ad industry and it makes people shiver when reading it. In our case it means "personal search customization", meaning you can customize the experience as you prefer (UI, domain rewrites, search providers, boosts, etc.). We don't log or track any search queries. I've fixed this in a couple of places but it seems I missed some others, so I'll be fixing it promptly.

Meanwhile, I hope that answers your question? Let me know if you'd like some further clarification.

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by redwood7 hours ago|

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Cool thanks. I meant here and just generally dropped the comment as advice in case you might slip into talking that way as if all of your target market are already familiar with this other Niche thing. When there's so many people out there who never heard of either anf might be open to suggestions

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by BrunoBernardino7 hours ago|

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Thanks! I'll experiment with that next month, then!

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by carlosjobim5 hours ago|

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Why do you call it a Kagi alternative and not a Google alternative?

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by BrunoBernardino5 hours ago|

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That's a good point. Mainly because of the personal search customization features, and the fact it's paid search. Those seem differentiating enough from Google and close enough to Kagi to use them as a reference instead. They're also a good product if you're happy with them, and I don't know many people that are _happy_ with Google, most are probably just _accepting_ of it, if that makes sense.

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