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by iLoveOncall12 hours ago |
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upvoteby sebtron12 hours ago|
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Why does it have to be a phone? Some people still use tablets, laptops and, believe it or not, desktop PCs.
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upvoteby xienze12 hours ago|
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Smartphones are much more ubiquitous than any of those devices. Across all demographics.
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upvoteby marginalia_nu11 hours ago|
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Accessibility doesn't end with catering to most people though. Since this will be a prerequisite to communicate online, that simply isn't good enough.
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upvoteby xienze11 hours ago|
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You're under the impression that your concerns matter. What matters is the end game of tying real identity to digital identity.
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upvoteby marginalia_nu11 hours ago|
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Well my concerns happen to be my constitutional rights.
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upvoteby iLoveOncall11 hours ago|
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Tablets would be compatible, and there's absolutely no indication that there won't be a separate system for computers.

It's actually disingenuous to think there won't be. This is a repository for a mobile app only.

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upvoteby roundabout-host11 hours ago|
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The spec mandates mobile versions to exist, and not PC ones. While a PC version can be provided, no government will do that, because they will do the bare minimum.
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upvoteby _factor12 hours ago|
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This will ensure there never is.
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upvoteby lexlambda12 hours ago|
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You must realize, age verification is for more then just Googles Android apps.

Such a strong new legal framework must consider consumer hardware actually in use:

- Android variations Like GrapheneOS, Huawei's HarmonyOS, older phones running custom ROMs - Linux phones, which are sold in the EU and by EU companies

- Desktop operating systems

All of them can run Web Apps, and thus need age verification

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upvoteby pluralmonad2 hours ago|
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Well, none of them _need_ age verification.
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upvoteby zzril11 hours ago|
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My PinePhone runs postmarketOS and can technically run every modern Linux desktop "app".
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upvoteby roundabout-host11 hours ago|
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Android derivatives are not considered enough, because they will not be Google-attested, so the app will refuse them.
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upvoteby mrsssnake5 hours ago|
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Even on the Android or iOS phone the EU app won't run if the device owner made even a tiniest change of the operating system without Google or Apple approval.

The EU developed system excludes the 1% of people for which the popular mobile solutions do not work and also make the rest 99% totally dependent on the selected corporations.

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upvoteby asadotzler3 hours ago|
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Windows and Mac have billions of users.
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upvoteby hahahaa12 hours ago|
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Run linux?
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upvoteby roundabout-host9 hours ago|
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I don't understand. Even if you run GNU/Linux, when you access a restricted website on it, you will have to scan a QR code with the Android or iOS app. <https://cinema.ageverification.dev> is a demo which shows that.
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upvoteby iLoveOncall4 hours ago|
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> https://cinema.ageverification.dev is a demo which shows that.

Unrelated to the substance of the comment but this is a depressing example. Imagine having to verify your age and your identity to buy a movie ticket. This is pure insanity.

Dark times are ahead. Anyone that doesn't see we'll all be living in dictatorships within the next 10 years is putting their head in the sand.

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