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What is the moat? The time it takes for AI to rewrite an efficient inference stack for a new model? Considering most LLMs follow a similar architecture, adapting to a new model shouldn't take that much time.
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There is no moat. At the moment, all of these companies are burning money to gain mindshare and market share. That's what Thinking Machines is doing; they're not looking for a business model.
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Nobody in the LLM world has a moat, or even an actual business model
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I don't know why people keep saying there's no moat. There's no moat. Having a FUCK ton of money to train these gigantic fucking models and retain the brains to make it happen is a moat.

You're not going to train one using a VPS from LowEndBox.

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But so can everyone else. What’s the moat for spending all those billions. I understand the Chinese angle, they need to undermine American models as a matter of statecraft, but what is the business model here? It just seems like VC charity.
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use open models to gain marketing/users/attention and then go closed? maybe
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There are no moats. LLM's are a commodity. The point in spending all of the billions is to have strong domestic open-weight models.

One of the worst case scenarios regarding LLM's is monopoly control, so these billionaires know they need to invest in competition.

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Mira Murati's success isn't because she's a woman.
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