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> being an exec at apple for decades you probably pick up on a few things, even if they're beyond your department

It's also possible to lose touch (e.g., butterfly keyboards).

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How is that losing touch?
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Chasing a thinner product at all costs?
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The Luce seems to disprove that, at least in his case.
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It's the Apple Watch Edition of cars.
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It’s the Apple Watch Edsel of cars.
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I believe "Luce" is correctly pronounced "Apple Car"
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The car that has sold out in almost every market outside the US?
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Ferrari tends to sell well, partially due to allocation requirements so you have to factor that in.

There will be a market for the car, but Ferrari is a mix of a car company, a lifestyle brand, and a jewelery company. The Luce doesn't really fit the image they've cultivated and is not distinctive enough from the rest of the market. It's almost too pedestrian. The inside is nice, but you can't flex on others with a nice interior. It also doesn't have fun features that are proving to be desirable, like the faux shifting that the Hyundai has and that other brands are gonna start adopting. It feels like a car Ferrari made to say they made an EV. Its like they felt they had to, either due to internal or external pressures.

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> allocation requirements

If I am understanding you correctly, it seems the Luce does not factor in to that equation. There are no requirements for anyone to buy a Luce in order to unlock the privilege of buying higher tier models.

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I actually didn't know that. If not, then cool!
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Both the cybertruck and apple vision pro basically sold out upon release... Selling out does not mean shit. Just proves there are many fools out there with too much money.
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Aren't there like a hundred of them? And yeah, sure, it'll obviously be a collector's item. Provides no evidence to this discussion.
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IIRC the expectation is that the yearly production run will be about 10x that. The initial China volume was 88 units.
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A hundred? That's a big run for Ferrari isn't it?
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Not anymore. Their numbers are higher nowadays.
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Yeah but thankfully it can be manufactured in a Hasbro factory, if need be
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That’s extremely easy for Ferrari to do, here is how it works:

“Hey, it’s your friendly Ferrari dealer. About your position on the list for an F80… we’re going to need you to buy a Luce to maintain your position and ensure you are eligible to purchase an F80 when we get an allocation.”

And that’s how you sell out a production run for a Ferrari that looks like a Kia. Force rich people to buy it to get the car they actually want, just like a Rolex AD does with Lady Datejusts if you want a Daytona allocation.

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Not really, hubris is a real thing and not just a plot point.
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