The Software Mansion folks designed it and we actually iterated on the designs on Figma, having discussions as humans, and exploring alternatives. They were lovely to work with.
replyI also worked on all of the copy myself, collecting feedback from core maintainers as I went. The new tagline was a suggestion from Theo which we iterated on. I did use LLMs as an assistant, but I did not ask it to generate the content.
Might as well use LLMs for the whole thing next time, since we will be accused of doing so anyway! :D
Ignore the haters, it looks very good.
replyShame then that despite all that, they landed on the same design used by every "I asked an LLM to make me a language and a website this weekend here's what it spit out" project. I mean, I'm not saying it looks bad or is a bad result. Just it's very similar to other things that have put in much less effort.
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reply"Human produces output similar to a machine trained on all human output"
replyIt is funny (and perhaps a bit depressing) that LLMs were trained on our content and now, if we generate a similar structure as before, with the usual love and care, we will be criticized by it. Even when it does not "look bad or is a bad result".
replyIt is indeed funny/sad to see the rancor created by our own inputs. You can't escape the AI police on HN right now. There will always be someone leaving a shallow complaint or accusation about the look or language, regardless of reality. Obviously slop exists, but the culture war has polarized some people enough that they're blinded, and anything resembling LLM output is a trigger. God help you if you use useful language like "load-bearing", because the police are definitely on their way.
replyFWIW, I don't think the site fits the LLM template. The scroll through the use cases is particularly nice.
And thanks for Elixir. I love it, and the agent + tidewave loop is a joy to use!
Thankfully, the webpages I make are so god-awful that no one can accuse of me of using an LLM. I use bog-standard browser controls for forms - they look fugly but its so rare to see raw/naked form controls nowadays that they look snowflake special.
replyI’m tried to understand the motivation for this salty comment and the parent comment. I failed. Then I opened the user’s comment history and most of their comments are like this. ModernMech, please, keep in mind we’re all doing our best. Being passive aggressive on the internet is social pollution. No offense intended, I’m just hoping you reflect a bit next time before you post.
replyMy motivation is I don't like the redesign and I wanted to say so. It looks like a lot of other sites out there. I'm sure that in the construction of the website got a lot of positive feedback along the way that caused such a result, but my feedback is that it looks like it could have been generated by an LLM. I didn't even say it looks bad, sorry if that's too harsh for the internet. You don't have to go on a quest to figure out my damage, it's not that deep.
replyThis is how every second website has looked for the past 10 years.
replyIts pretty snappy/responsive for me at least so thats good. Normally LLM slop sites are pretty at first but sluggish as hell. So some level of skill went into this one.
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