> The Chinese models are the result of just as many papers, GitHub repos, etc… AND the synthesized results of those.
replyRight, but they aren't the ones whining that other people are getting "the synthesised results" for free.
I'm pretty sure the Chinese cloning isn't being arrived at for free regardless. Fable is quite expensive for example.
replyIf Anthropic has a real problem with API use, they can always raise the price.
And you can download the Chinese model weights and run them yourself - admittedly not too practical for Kimi K3 unless you're a big corporation, but eminently doable for others. The hardware to run Deepseek r4 uncompressed is about about $30k no=ew, well within the power of a small company or financially secure individual. Compressing and/or getting creative with hardware could bring that down quite a bit.
replyThe difference is that the Chinese are sharing the models with everyone.
Yeah real convenient that the line would be exactly after pilfering all of human knowledge work, but before American model providers.
reply... and they're at least releasing the results.
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