Do people still hire QA?
replyOver the last 16 years all I've seen is people implying (heavily) that they can replace QA with "good enough unit tests"..
Which then inevitably leads to bugs, and performance regressions and developers doing their own QA.
I honestly think that all of this is a psyop to get devs to do more, that and "devops" which is either rebranded sysadmins, or developers working as yaml monkeys between code reviews and feature development.
Yeah I've seen both approaches. Either teams do their own QA or we have a dedicated function. Depends on the domain to some extent. Both can work. But I don't hear people saying stupid shit anymore like "QA is a cost center". When we have it, everyone understands the value.
replyI worked in a team with no QAs for a while - testing was done by developers and there were a lot end to end tests. It worked pretty well - I think a couple of small bugs got through, but whether a QA would have found the issues is debatable. It was for an internal system too so the cost of a defect was low anyway. I've also worked a company with no QAs in some pretty core teams and they had almost no defects either.
replyCurrently working on some legacy stuff with no proper end to end tests and I'm very grateful for competent testers right now.
> "good enough unit tests"
replyGood enough end to end tests then maybe.