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Trump made $1.5B off TrumpCoin. Literally a vehicle for bribery, and we know he made over a billion dollars.

The hell are you talking about. There's "corruption" which is pointing fingers, and then there is "we literally have the receipts of countries paying him off (Qatar), and we have the vehicle he created to do exactly that off the record (TrumpCoin)."

So don't pretend it's like "oh, everyone is corrupt." It's ridiculous. Trump is literally verifiably corrupt.

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Wiki has a decent page on what happened to his meme coin. [1] Suffice to say, he definitely didn't make billions off it, or a single billion off of it.

And the entire premise doesn't even make any sense. Say you want a vessel for bribery and as that vessel you choose a completely open and highly visible public ledger that anybody and everybody can track the flow of money through, as opposed to the basically infinite ways to discretely and anonymously transfer wealth in modern times? And then what exactly do you think Qatar wants to bribe him for? Arms shipments that were already skyrocketing under previous administrations?

And then Trump is also directly working against the interests of countries like Qatar by invading Iran, which has somewhat predictably resulted in them getting blasted by Iran which is resulting in them wasting one can only imagine how much in interceptor missiles which tend to run in the millions per pop, which they are now rebuying from the US lol.

There is a lot one can reasonably critique about Trump, but I don't understand how you don't see that being level-headed in your critique is way more reasonable than just spewing off weak and hyperbolic talking points. It makes things partisan because the only people that will agree with you are those who are also partisan, and you end up convincing nobody and effectively just perpetuate the exact system of divide-and-conquer that ensures we keep getting Trumps and Bidens.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/$Trump

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> I think these typical slurs don't really make any sense.

Corrupt, pliable and stupid are not slurs.

> There's tremendous money and influence in opposition to things he's doing that he could easily cash in on if he wanted

Is there a Big Solar or Big Wind or Green lobby that's comparable to Big Oil? Is there a huge lobby group for national healthcare? Is there tremendous funding for anti- Big Tech and Data Center movements?

> there's basically no 'Let's go invade Iran' lobby outside of Israel, and even 'Israel' misstates that since it's mostly that nut and yahoo they have for a leader

AIPAC

> corruption is when an external power gets somebody to act in a way that they would not otherwise, in exchange for sort of personal benefit.

See Putin's Russia, the Qataris, Saudis and Emiratis funding the Trump family in exchange for a number of actions such as goading him to war against Iran, desisting from sending American supplies to Ukraine or getting the go-ahead to start a nuclear programme.

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I think this is just gish galloping. [1] A lot of what you're saying doesn't make any sense at all. For instance Trump has gotten into an adversarial relation with big oil companies to the point of publicly implying they were price gouging and order a Justice Department investigation into such. [2]

If you have something you think clearly justifies what you're saying, then say that instead of offering numerous weak critiques.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

[2] - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-gas-pric...

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You are the one muddling reality trying to obfuscate it. It's not a Gish gallop when we are simply demonstrating that a person is so corrupt that there are tens, if not hundreds of examples of his corruption.

- This one is for the oil lobby mentioned above by the other user: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/09/trump-asks-oil-exec... finance-00157131

- Two Billion dollars from the Saudis to Jared Kushner: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-in...

- multi-billion dollar deal for Oman properties: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trumps-business-deal-with-...

- China grants trademark to Ivanka: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=8997844...

- Foreign countries spending at his properties: https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/news/press-releases/ove...

- Selling MNPI access to allow insider trading to anyone that can pay $100K/month: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/18/trump-media-pitched-100000/m...

Should I continue or do you finally realize how corrupt is he?

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No you're rather demonstrating what I'm talking about. Pick a single point you think is the clearest, most compelling/damning and accurate example, and I'd love to discuss that with you. And try to pay at least a basic modicum of attention - the first link you posted isn't even copy-pasted correctly and so 404s.
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Unbelievable. So in your opinion it’s perfectly fine to sell MNPI for a fee to allow someone to do insider trading and all the other shit that he has done, of which I posted much less than 10%. Or maybe you want to explain me how it’s a great decision to move Ghislaine Maxwell in a minimum security prison after her promise that she would not implicate your pedo in chief. You could have chosen any of those points to discuss, but instead you chose to deflect and just blabber on irrelevant stuff. Enjoy the fall of your empire, I’m enjoying it much more from afar.
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The whole point of Gish Galloping is that most of your points are quite weak, so I wanted you to choose what you felt was strongest to avoid the inevitable 'okay, fine - but what about [other weak point].' And then eventually you ignoring all refutations only to spew out a whole new slew of weak points to repeat the process over.

So in this case for instance you're apparently choosing Trump's Truth Social API fee as the hill you want to die on, which I find odd. He's literally just selling access to an API to information that's not only free publicly accessible, but also already regularly scraped. There is no insider anything. It's certainly a further degradation of the office of the Presidency sending us ever closer to President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, but that's quite par for the course - and it's not corruption.

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Your evidence of Trump not being corrupt is his public whining about high oil prices (a result of his wars). My evidence for his corruption is documented evidence of public transfers of wealth from dictatorships and crony capitalists to his family accounts, or to his businesses.

And you have the audacity to say I'm gish-galloping and that these facts I've stated don't make sense at all. This is truly laughable and I feel sorry for you.

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