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by f311a13 hours ago |
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upvoteby embedding-shape13 hours ago|
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> Also, it will never complain about security guards, I've been using it to reverse engineer binaries.

Maybe I'm using too weak language in my prompts, but none of the OpenAI models I've used via codex has refused to reverse engineer binaries, is it supposed to? I'm sitting right now reverse-engineering a 3rd party firmware together with Codex and haven't hit a single guardrail. Meanwhile, I see people complaining about it rejecting non-security related prompts, are things so individual on the platforms right now or what's going on?

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upvoteby markasoftware12 hours ago|
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Have you completed the identity verification? It's much more lenient once you have
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upvoteby embedding-shape12 hours ago|
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Oh yeah, back in the GPT3.5 days I think, that's probably it. Thanks for sharing your hunch :)
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upvoteby flexagoon12 hours ago|
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Weird, I'm using 5.6 Sol through Chinese resellers and it reverse engineers stuff just fine
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upvoteby johntarter2 hours ago|
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That's hilarious that Anthropic and OpenAI can't even secure their products from Chinese resellers, how are they supposed to secure their models from being distilled?
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upvoteby genxy4 hours ago|
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Because they have gone through identify verification, they are more likely to have done that to increase reputation score.
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upvoteby OkGoDoIt3 hours ago|
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I think I’m missing something, what do you mean Chinese resellers? As I understand it, it’s difficult to even access OpenAI in China, how could they be reselling it? Do you mean something like openrouter but a Chinese version or something?
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upvoteby markasoftware46 minutes ago|
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They usually resell codex subscriptions as api so it's cheaper than the official api
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upvoteby Scoundreller2 hours ago|
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Proxies/vpns to enter/exit comms through non-banned countries.
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upvoteby dotancohen3 hours ago|
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Do you have any suggestions for resellers? My Gmail username is the same as my HN username if you're not comfortable posting that here.

Thanks.

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upvoteby ngl99911 hours ago|
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Probably not real 5.6 Sol
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upvoteby flexagoon10 hours ago|
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How so? The code and reasoning patterns certainly match, so does the intelligence level. I probably wouldn't know if they're secretly serving Luna instead of Sol, but it's definitely an OpenAI model.
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upvoteby realusername12 hours ago|
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I got an account warning on OpenAI (waved after I complained) just because I was asking it how to root some >10 years old Android device.
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upvoteby dotancohen3 hours ago|
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Sonnet recently even suggested I root a three year old device and provided instructions. I suppose that is depends on use case. My use case was exporting data from an abandoned application running on an S24 Ultra.

The idea was that I could continue to use the application in the future and export the new data, not that I would be able to recover the extent data already in there.

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upvoteby mark_l_watson9 hours ago|
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This is my experience also: DeepSeek v4 flash is good enough for most of my work and I like the fast response times. I buy tokens mostly from FireWorks.ai in the US, but I also prepaid for a large chunk of tokens directoy with DeepSeek.

I use OpenCode mostly (uses fewer tokens than Claude Code) and I am looking forward to the release of DeepSeek’s own coding harness.

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upvoteby regularfry13 hours ago|
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It's good but (at least on openrouter) it's got an annoyingly tight output token limit. So if it does get stuck in a reasoning pit, it won't work its way out of it in time.

It's replaced the Kimi models for me though.

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upvoteby u808012 hours ago|
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Try to use DS platform directly - cheaper and better than openrouter, no subscription
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upvoteby dghlsakjg6 hours ago|
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Openrouter has cheaper inference than deepseek for the prior version of v4 flash, which I suspect will happen within a day or two with this version, and they don’t offer subscriptions. Are you confusing it with opencode?
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upvoteby u80804 hours ago|
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No, maybe I've checked too much time ago, but direct DS was cheaper for all versions - also I had issues with openrouter providers availability
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upvoteby dghlsakjg3 hours ago|
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There are numerous providers offering full weight versions for a significant discount.

Availability and rate limiting can be an issue, though. I’ve found that constraining the providers works well to solve that though.

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