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The full sentence I wrote: "Artificial Intelligence is writing about as well as humans — at least well enough to cause confusion and speculation — and that’s creating an existential crisis among authors, confusion among readers, and legal action within the industry"

"About as well as" doesn't mean "better." Wild that you jumped from one to the other.

I continue: "-- at least well enough to cause confusion and speculation --" This is factual.

One thing I am sure of is that computers are better at reading than people. The way some people read makes me want to vomit.

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Of course they are. I'm not even a native speaker.

I read the whole thing and it was my impression.

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Heh.

Literally, welcome to: Hacker News.

It's always been like this.

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Thanks! Everyone seems so nice.
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> AI writing makes me vomit.

I think this was fairly obvious and fair 1 - 2 years ago. Now though, I have to wonder if people who think this with such conviction are falling for the toupee fallacy.

You said it yourself: someone you consider a well known (and presumably accomplished?) author thinks AI is pretty good at writing.

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I haven't tried using an AI to write prose, but I use Claude to write code daily and it spits out the worst comments I've ever seen, along with some surprisingly good ones.

Would we not expect AI fiction to be the same? A stream of poor and excellent taste, not particularly original or surprising, samey in hard-to-define ways, but capable of being hammered into a good story by an editor.

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> Would we not expect AI fiction to be the same? A stream of poor and excellent taste, not particularly original or surprising, samey in hard-to-define ways, but capable of being hammered into a good story by an editor.

That could also describe many human writers…

AI writing seems to have a quality ceiling, or an ick floor if you prefer to think about it that way around, but is OK compare to bad human writers.

I'm still committed to the career suicide that is refusing to touch generative AI beyond the supped-up auto-correct/-suggest that has replaced the older method in my IDE (replaced, such that if I turn it off I also lose what I had before), but seeing results others around me have pulled out of the hat I have to admit the tech can produce serviceable work if properly fettled by a person afterwards.

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I don't think you're committing career suicide. I've seen people get serviceable results out of it, and it always involves reading the code in depth. Reading the code being slower than writing it, they're almost never getting a speed up.

That being said, the better coders I've seen aren't looking for a speed up, they're generally looking for something to bounce ideas off of, or to get a first draft going to defeat writer's block or something (I guess this is technically a speed up, but not the way people mean when they describe slinging tokens around). It's generally to wind up at a better solution at the end than to get a sustained speed up (which seems to only be possible in boilerplate heavy domains, but those were previously slowed down by the boilerplate and are really only coming up to speed with everything else, at significant cost).

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I think “taste” is probably the right word. Steve Jobs’ quote about Microsoft is very relevant: “The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste. They have absolutely no taste. And I don't mean that in a small way, I mean that in a big way, in the sense that they don't think of original ideas, and they don't bring much culture into their products.”

Replace Microsoft with LLMs and the same quote applies. They have no culture, no connection. The code or comments they produce will not effect any future LLM session and they current have no concern how it will effect future humans except for maximizing engagement for the human at the console today.

Fiction is no different. Unless there’s a feedback loop the LLM just spits out text and will never see it again. The LLM will never meet the readers at book signings, weave in personal details that could only be known for experience.

It’s probably perfect for the write-by-committee style of movies and shows being created today. Just like organic food or locally made products, there are already creators putting Human Intelligence badges on their work and there will probably be a market (though niche) for that until human supremacist laws push it underground.

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> Now though, I have to wonder if people who think this with such conviction are falling for the toupee fallacy.

If this is the case it should be quite easy for you to provide examples of excellent AI-fiction.

As for the “well-known author”, Occam’s razor says he (like most “well-known accomplished authors”) doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about.

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> If this is the case it should be quite easy for you to provide examples of excellent AI-fiction.

I feel that's the opposite of the toupee fallacy. The lack of labelled excellent AI fiction supports the idea that there's a lot of excellent fiction that was written by largely by AI but nobody was able to identify it as AI, because they were looking for writing that makes them vomit.

Regardless, how about this: https://deadline.com/2026/07/ai-questions-debut-novel-book-f...

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There’s plenty of people who use good toupees/wigs and are open about it (or went bald and saved their hair with mystery medicine). I’m sure if models can now produce amazing fiction it wouldn’t take more than few minutes and Claude subscription to prove us doubters wrong.

Maybe that debut novel is amazing, but the fact that we are even discussing whether it’s AI or not tells me it might not be - in any case we can’t read it yet to judge ourselves - just that publishing agents are completely out of touch. If it were truly great I don’t think anyone would care, since hey, good writing is good writing, no matter where it comes from. We would just read it and enjoy.

Similarly models are for fact able to produce music and images that are very difficult to differentiate from meat made, but still… Most people don’t like them. Something seems always a bit off, kinda artificial and boring. Lack of imagination, lack of authenticity, lack of voice.

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Taking the lack of ability to identify good AI fiction as evidence that there is good AI fiction is absurd, because it means that there is no evidence which could ever point to there not being good AI fiction. There must be evidence which could contradict a hypothesis for it to be sensible.
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Just like how raw sewage tastes good, but people think it tastes bad because of how all of the raw sewage they've tasted tastes bad. But if only people ate more raw sewage, they'd find how much tasty raw sewage is out there!
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There would be some cases where the author/prompter would want to show off how good it is. It would even be beneficial for the AI companies
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Good at constructing paragraphs, yeah. Generating coherent plotting and character development is still a human skill.
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> I think this was fairly obvious and fair 1 - 2 years ago.

And that's mostly for us, developers who use it all the time and maybe for other office employees. Not sure if random person would recognize LLM-isms.

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Not even the random HN user detects LLM-isms. You regularly get downvoted for pointing it out. E.g. here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49087955
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There's been multiple 'unslop' contests [1] with a focus on AI 'writing' and I agree with the OP that AI writing makes me want to vomit. It's all hollow, bland writing that has zero zest to it.

[1] https://www.hyperstitionai.com/unslop-results

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Agree. I've just decided that I'm limiting my reading to pre-2021 books. There's still many lifetimes of a backlog there, even at my relatively high rate.
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This is happening in every creative industry. The creators on the edge of this space in every medium have seen it from both sides.

AI creative is easy to spot _right now_. It will not always be that way.

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AI makes you vomit because most uses of it are hamfisted attempts at doing a thing.

People are going to eventually figure out how to polish and refine the usage and outputs so you cant even tell it is AI.

This is already becoming increasingly true for code and software. The next step is writing and then media.

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> People are going to eventually figure out how to polish and refine the usage and outputs so you cant even tell it is AI.

Personally, I'm gonna go offline after this and meet more people. One of the reasons I read comments is because it's human conversation. When everything will be ridden by bots — I'm out.

There is no point in consuming this.

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> AI writing makes me vomit.

There is likely a non empty set of writings that are AI written and that you don't recognize to be AI written.

I agree that the Ai-isms are ugly.

Butni also acknowledge that I am likely reading huge amounts of Ai text I don't attribute Ai.

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that's not how I interpreted the whole article.
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Default unspecifically-prompted AI writing makes you vomit, because it has a specific pattern.

But with enough well-defined prompts AI can be made to write in practically any style, often with results unrecognizable as AI-generated.

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It does not matter which prompt you use. Even a long article with a small input (of what to write) will include weird details and structure.

People tried to fool Pangram by using custom prompts and instant feedback (rewrite until it passes). After hundreds of rounds, the text was still detected.

Although it's harder to detect such text by humans, there will be clues if you want to write a whole book based on a few pages of input.

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Show me. AIvangelists love to say what AI can do, but never bother to provide any examples.
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>"This is a well-known author, but how come he thinks AI is better at writing? AI writing makes me vomit."

Most of all writing makes me want to vomit. It's not impossible to write well with AI, but it's the same argument as vibe-coded slop vs. a senior engineer using the tools carefully. I'd be inclined to accept the expert's opinion here.

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how come he thinks AI is better at writing?

He talks about this in the article, did you read it? Reasons include AI winning writing contests, AI hitting bestseller lists, and now apparently an AI-written book inspiring a bidding war between publishers that resulted in the supposed "author" getting a $2.4M advance (until it was revealed that the book was written by AI).

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That's true, but I can still tell if a big article was mostly written by AI.

The author talks about writing cheap stories, but right now, you can't do this. Cheap stories are pretty bad, because there is very little human effort to polish them. The more effort you put into AI written stories, the better they become, but it's not cheap at all. You have to rewrite and review them.

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And you don’t expect it to improve? At the rate things are going?
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It will, there is no doubt.

But look at the first paragraph of the article:

    > The writing was on the wall, and now the writing is  everywhere. Literally. Artificial Intelligence is writing about as well as humans — at least well enough to cause confusion and speculation — and that’s creating an existential crisis among authors, confusion among readers, and legal action within the industry.

He talks about the current state.
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How do you know the ones you don't think are written by AI, actually aren't?
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A small puke comes close in the times I noticed.
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"how come" makes me want to vomit. (That "It’s a common idiom" is completely irrelevant. And note that it doesn't actually make me vomit.)

Also, here's another thought. In my opinion, here's my opinion.

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It’s a common idiom
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