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by fidotron7 hours ago |
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upvoteby zbentley4 hours ago|
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> pricing is determined by what someone else will pay for something

That’s so reductive that even Keynes would probably take issue.

Discoverability is the axis of competition in this context, not price. The market has not effectively found out how to identify quality in order to price it, so externalities rule instead: pre-existing authors with recognizable names, whatever genre publishers like at a given moment (famously disconnected from what people actually want to buy), how many energy drinks a crabby editor has had by the time they get to your manuscript, and so on.

Search engine and recommendation systems were supposed to ameliorate those externalities. They didn’t.

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upvoteby harimau7777 hours ago|
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Price is determined by what someone is willing to pay but value isn't. If the value from art comes from expression, then LLMs directly attack the core value of art.
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upvoteby argentinian3 hours ago|
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LLMs don't impede human expression.
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upvoteby fidotron6 hours ago|
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Damien Hirst, among many other prominent modern and historical artists, famously employed teams of human assistants to execute the bulk of the work. In the Hirst case that extended to the spot paintings, many of which he had very limited involvement in as a direct feature of the concept of the work itself.

Something tells me that doesn't alter the value of the art as expression of the intention of the artist, and not the assistant be it human or machine. In the spot painting case he was deliberately playing with this idea to the degree it added to the perceived value.

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upvoteby harimau77731 minutes ago|
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That's a great point! I wonder if the difference might be that, as you mentioned, Hirst's lack of direct involvement was part of his artistic message. I wonder "work where the medium is part of the message" might just be an exception to the rule? Although in general I am suspicious of whether AI art is really art, I would consider it art if using AI was part of the message. However, does that generalize to other messages that people use art to communicate?
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upvoteby skydhash4 hours ago|
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Have you ever seen the end credits of a movie. It’s not made by one person either. Just like cathedrals aren’t built by one person.

But someone has the vision and make it real. That which is real is a medium from one soul (or many) to you.

I still have to see someone using LLM to share a soulful vision of his.

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