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upvoteby tomhow4 hours ago|
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It wasn't heavily flagged. It was pulled down by the flamewar detector due to the large number of comments, and it slid under the radar due to only hitting the front page during overnight hours on Friday night/Saturday morning. It still spent 10 hours on the front page, but all during off peak hours. I've now created a new copy of the post so it can have prime time exposure.
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upvoteby Chance-Device2 days ago|
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> people that can't psychologically cope with the advances of AI

Yes. And there are many of them. I wonder what would help them come to terms with it. Seriously, people are going to be grieving over this. Loss of identity, loss of social standing, ideas of entire future lives that will now never happen. The greatest crime people may hold AI guilty of is taking away their dreams.

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upvoteby lacy_tinpot2 hours ago|
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It's given many more an opportunity to fulfill their dreams.
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upvoteby matteoraso2 days ago|
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People have had to deal with getting their jobs automated away for centuries. None of this is new, and perhaps reminding ourselves of this is the best way to cope.
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upvoteby Chance-Device2 days ago|
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I understand your sentiment, but I think this really is something different. This isn’t a craft going away, or even an industry being replaced, it’s potentially everything we do. It’s the ground being pulled away beneath people’s feet, everyone, everywhere all at once. I think the vacuum it leaves in people’s lives needs to be filled with something, and I haven’t heard any good ideas about this or how the transition should be managed at all.
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upvoteby nevertoolate1 hours ago|
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There is a glaring fallacy in your “AI will change everything as it is super intelligent” hypothesis. If it is so great thinker which can do everything why not just solve this social impact thingie? Or maybe it is not so capable?
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upvoteby Chance-Device47 minutes ago|
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I don’t think it’s magic. Things need to actually be made to happen regardless of intelligence, and that’s a social issue. Also if AI were powerful enough to fix everything by itself effortlessly it would already be far too powerful for us to control, and we probably shouldn’t allow that to happen on general principle.
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upvoteby lostmsu28 minutes ago|
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That assumes the particular problem actually has a solution (that you will like).
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upvoteby zeven71 days ago|
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This is the sentiment of people who haven't accepted that this is in fact something very different from what people have seen in the past.
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upvoteby tuesdaynight1 days ago|
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I like your comments and agree with a lot of your points, including parts of this one. That said, please don't go to this route. A lot of the doomerism comes from financial insecurity fears. Try to remember that a lot of people are subconsciously afraid of losing their homes. I know that it is pretty hard to ignore them, but try to engage with people that do not dismiss 100% of AI accomplishments.
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upvoteby rwz1 days ago|
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> A lot of the doomerism comes from financial insecurity fears. Try to remember that a lot of people are subconsciously afraid of losing their homes. I

I think recognizing and accounting for your own personal biases is one of the requirements of the being an intellectually honest and rigorous online discourse participant.

Things could be genuinely impressive and fascinating even when directly challenge your ego and material well being.

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upvoteby bencarmin2 days ago|
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This comment is about the tier of a Reddit atheist going to a funeral and telling a grieving family that "haha grandma is dead and there is no heaven".
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upvoteby lkey2 days ago|
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Forums change with the times, and this one never existed solely to burnish your ego.

Moreover, mister elite, you don't know why this press release was flagged.

I'm not sure why we should privilege your bitter speculation over more mundane possibilities.

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upvoteby simianwords2 days ago|
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upvoteby lkey2 days ago|
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You don't accept it is possible that it was initially flagged as a dupe or spam why? There is competition for primary submission here, especially for the primary AI companies.

Moreover, if it wasn't flagged at all, like you suggest, then the grandparent was inventing things to be bitterly resentful about... Which is not a behavior any forum should indulge.

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upvoteby fg1372 days ago|
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Didn't know I was part of an elite.
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upvoteby w4yai1 days ago|
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You're were for 4 months. That's what we're talking about. It used to be.
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upvoteby antonvs2 days ago|
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> Hacker News is no longer a web site of an elite.

It was always mainly a website for employees of an elite.

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upvoteby matt_daemon2 days ago|
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It’s never been clear to me why the HN algorithm isn’t public. It’s obviously nowhere near as complex as something like Twitter, and of course isn’t a trade secret. The fact it’s private only furthers speculation like this.
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upvoteby BigTTYGothGF2 days ago|
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> Hacker News is no longer a web site of an elite.

Never was.

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upvoteby dwb1 days ago|
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So condescending. “Can’t psychologically cope”? Can you hear yourself? There’s some advances, but we’re losing a lot too. Don’t get dazzled by the hype.
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upvoteby pistoriusp2 days ago|
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Interesting. I had no idea that a person could see what is flagged?
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upvoteby defrost2 days ago|
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If you page through the /newest listings you can see [flagged] and [flagged][dead] submissions.

eg. this: [flagged] A migrant surge tests Spain's open policies (economist.com) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49131860

is clearly marked as flagged.

Unlike the current submission: Ten advances in mathematics and theoretical computer science (openai.com) which isn't [flagged].

* https://news.ycombinator.com/newest

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upvoteby robinhouston2 days ago|
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That's true, but submissions are only killed in that way if they receive a ‘fatal’ number of flags. However, flags lower the rank of a story even at non-fatal levels. What antirez is suggesting here is that the rank of this story has been lowered by flags – and that seems plausible, if you compare its rank to that of other stories with a similar age and number of points.
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upvoteby defrost2 days ago|
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[flagged] submissions aren't [dead] (killed), they are still active and can be upvoted and commented upon.

> if you compare its rank to that of other stories with a similar age and number of points.

Ranking is complicated enough here even before weighting, speed of initial upvotes can play against ranking, number of comments and the shape of the comment tree also affect ranking. And yes, various subjects and submission sources do get weightings that impact ranking.

What's funny, to myself at least, is that any attention at all is paid to "HN front page ranking" - I've been on again off again active here since 2008 .. and can't recall ever really looking at a default HN "front page" ever.

( There's /newest /newcomments /active etc to browse and sites such as https://hckrnews.com/ )

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upvoteby ofjcihen1 days ago|
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Or maybe, just maybe, other people have different opinions than you?

Is that possible or is everyone else too common to have those?

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upvoteby bwfan1232 days ago|
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> Hacker News is no longer a web site of an elite

hah, sorry, we are plebs out here.

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upvoteby over_bridge4 hours ago|
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Jokes on him. I'm a peasant and I've been here for years
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upvoteby revetkn2 days ago|
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upvoteby root_axis2 days ago|
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upvoteby ltitu2 days ago|
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We cannot psychologically stand that Redis is hyped by OpenAI:

https://developers.openai.com/cookbook/examples/vector_datab...

How are the sales going?

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upvoteby halJordan2 days ago|
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If you're actively throwing away brand new greenfield research because it was generated by a computer at a company that stans industry-spanning software so that you can stay mad at your pet celebrity project, you might be the problem.
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upvoteby 3aasgf2 days ago|
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You have to give AI one thing: It is vastly better at understanding text than AI boosters.

Which is a low bar, but still.

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