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by rw29 hours ago |
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upvoteby pgwhalen9 hours ago|
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I’m no UI expert - what’s wrong with the margins?
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upvoteby LooseEquipment8 hours ago|
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inconsistent and maybe too tight, but I would think those are issues with the sample UIs and not this library
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upvoteby OneDeuxTriSeiGo8 hours ago|
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FWIW if you listen to Signals and Threads (the Jane Street podcast) they talk about this.

They have dedicated UX designers who do relatively little code but focus entirely on making the UX as optimal for the traders as possible and one of them was on an episode.

They talked about how most of the normal UX rules for SW go out the window because quants and traders have such different needs than "normal software".

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upvoteby chrisweekly6 hours ago|
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This matters. Beyond performance (a universal good), the definition of "good" UX is strictly dependent on the user. Fintech platforms for traders who open a multi-window thick client application(s) and spend hours in it every day have little in common with consumer mobile apps designed to hold your attention for maybe a minute. It's mind-bogglingly lazy to choose something like MUI (Material UI) as if it were some kind of reasonable foundation irrespective of context.
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upvoteby jackcarter7 hours ago|
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Is there any professional software that wouldn't benefit from high information density? Most software design is optimized for the non-users who have to approve it.
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upvoteby jacobolus3 hours ago|
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You can have high information density and still not have words running into each-other. Taking all of the space out from around text and information graphics makes them less legible, even for experienced "power users".

I think the goal here is more an aesthetic of being for "serious traders only" rather than a UI optimized for speed and clarity. The UI designers probably have little choice but to match the preferences of the user group though, even when those preferences are empirically detrimental.

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upvoteby ambicapter7 hours ago|
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"non-users" are also big targets for software. If you run a software business, chances are you want people who've never used your software to start using your software. In that case, discoverability trumps high information density.
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upvoteby tjoff5 hours ago|
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It only adds discoverability for the things that fit the screen. In other words, you have to make it simple. I.e. the lazy way to make something "user-friendly", do as little as possible and force the user to adapt to your ways instead.
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upvoteby RugnirViking6 hours ago|
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this - most of the internal software at my job that's actually important is very dense, with keyboard navigation and shortcuts. The ones that somebody makes to sell themselves to upper management while angling for a promotion look very pretty, and never get used.

And yet, we make such beautiful and vacant software ourselves for our clients, because again, its b2b, so you aren't selling to the people who actually have to use the software. Im glad at least we arent forced that often to use specific internal tools, the better ones just get adopted organically

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upvoteby dmoy3 hours ago|
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Fair point

I guess JS doesn't have to care about this at all because they're not selling their UI to others, just making it in house for in house use

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upvoteby pgwhalen8 hours ago|
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From experience I can say that traders prefer extraordinarily little whitespace in their UIs.
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upvoteby kfse2 hours ago|
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A lot is said in this thread about user preferences for info density, but it is really a lot more than preference. there's also a big component of it that is user productivity focused. Info-dense UIs simply require a lot less scrolling around and pagination to look at relevant data. For example the ability to look at multiple charts side by side instead of having to scroll one chart after another into position enables users to spot differences that they wouldn't otherwise see.
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upvoteby troupo7 hours ago|
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I'd kill for tight UIs now. Everything insists on having 15000-mile wide margins, and at most two items visible on an 8K screen.

We are at a point when TUIs from 1990s running in 12" screens with at best a 480x240 resolution display more info than almost anything we have now.

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upvoteby steve_adams_861 hours ago|
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This makes me think about the bizarre UI regressions in macOS in the last few years. I’ve got this giant, beautiful display and somehow it becomes less rather than more useful over time due to the software it’s presenting.
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upvoteby stronglikedan4 hours ago|
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Margins on an info dashboard are wasted space.
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upvoteby ctxc8 hours ago|
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Probably because they skew towards higher information density
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