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We are all long aware that Jobs was a flawed individual.

But he made good products that most people like to use. That was GP they were getting at with "he wants to be Steve Jobs."

You don't need to hamfist that into the conversation every times Jobs' name comes up.

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IMO it's not a outrage/apologist thing anymore, just played out and irrelevant. There are so many current problems that we don't need to dig up things about Jobs - or defend him. Let's fix-forward.
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Altman has far worse issues, considering his alleged actions towards his sister.
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No need to be disrespectful.
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Why do you focus on the dead and not on the living who have done as bad?
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Why do you assume I don't also criticize living jerks?
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You can, and should, do both.

The mythologising of some really bad people got us here.

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