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by ajross5 hours ago |
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upvoteby inigyou5 hours ago|
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Not limited to exactly 12 months, like our competitor's promotion.

Were you expecting a massive evil corporation to keep spending $50 every month on you forever?

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upvoteby Nux3 hours ago|
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There's a fallacy in there somewhere.

I bet they're not spending $X/m on any of your free things, they're sitting on underutilised resources they're paying for anyway at probably very handsome rates.

At worst this is included in their marketing budget.

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upvoteby ajross5 hours ago|
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> Were you expecting a massive evil corporation to keep spending $50 every month on you forever?

When they offer something "always"... yes? Are "always" and "forever" not synonyms?

I'm not arguing about the economics or motivation, just pointing out that simple language says that they lied.

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upvoteby skeeter20204 hours ago|
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In Canada we have a grocery chain called Superstore that posts many products as "Always $x.xx" but the prices have continually been increased over the years. I wouldn't call it a lie but it sure feels dirty and unethical. They used to use the president of the family corporation in all their ads too, but don't anymore and that's probably because he knows they're in the wrong on this and many other things (like the price fixing scandals).
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upvoteby jerf3 hours ago|
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Ah, my favorite exception to fraud: Puffery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puffery

If everyone knows it's a lie... well then I guess it's not a lie anymore, is it?

I kind of understand why the law takes this position. If you really think about it's hard to imagine how to truly fix this. But it still feels pretty dirty.

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upvoteby inigyou4 hours ago|
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Were you expecting anything to last forever? The sun's gonna explode, you know.
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upvoteby ajross4 hours ago|
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Expecting someone to lie doesn't mean rolling over and refusing to acknowledge it. Not unlike people making the expected reactionary cynical commentary on internet forums still demands a response.

I mean, you're very perceptive! But that's not very interesting, it's sort of the price of admission here at HN. Oracle lying in its product naming is more so.

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upvoteby inigyou1 hours ago|
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When Amazon says something is always free in the free tier, it's opposite things that are free for the first 12 months of your account.
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upvoteby qwytw1 hours ago|
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> over and refusing to acknowledge it.

I guess one option would be to vote with your walled and stop paying them? Oh.. wait..

Whatever Oracle is in general this specifically (and the reduced 2 CPU + 12 GB tier ) is still massively more "generous" than what any other cloud provider gives you for free.

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upvoteby pram5 hours ago|
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Conditionally
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upvoteby parl_match5 hours ago|
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If you have it, it'll always be free.
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upvoteby wang_li4 hours ago|
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I would think that it means they have an offering that you won't be charged for, not that they will offer the exact same thing perpetually. Like Red Robin has free refills on many sides doesn't mean that those sides will be something they serve forever.
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