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by simianwords3 hours ago |
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upvoteby bigyabai3 hours ago|
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> Why wouldn't you? It reduces your overall cost!

Because real Fable usage starts at $20/month, and has oppressive usage limits even at that (ridiculous) monthly price.

Compared to my $3/month GLM-5.2 subscription, I have never felt like I was leaving capabilities on the table by refusing to cough up $20 for 15 minutes of Fable use per day.

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upvoteby epiccoleman2 hours ago|
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where are you subbing to GLM-5.2? i've been meaning to try it out and for $3 it's a no-brainer to just load it up and give it a shot.
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upvoteby simianwords3 hours ago|
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This is the wrong way to look at it. If you have a complicated task , you can solve it for cheaper if you used Fable. It will use fewer turns to achieve the same result.

You can solve it for cheaper if you use GLM but if you are involved in it more, but that defeats the purpose.

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upvoteby gbalduzzi3 hours ago|
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The point is that there aren't many complex tasks were fable delivers a significant value increase over cheaper models.

Single prompting a very complex tasks is rare even on frontier models, because it can be done successfully only for specific situations (e.g. you have a very strong verification step the model can iterate on).

Most of my everyday usage is for smaller takes, were you don't really get the benefit of the most expensive models, and my guess is that is the case for the most users

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upvoteby simianwords3 hours ago|
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> The point is that there aren't many complex tasks were fable delivers a significant value increase over cheaper models.

Strong disagree on this. Any decently complicated task like a refactor is going to be more likely to be solved by Fable than by Gemma 3B or whatever.

I have personally tried to use Sonnet over Opus for tasks and Sonnet gets things right sometimes and at other times I wish I had just paid higher.

This is the standard pattern I keep seeing and I can have a bet with you that it would stay like this.

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upvoteby bigyabai3 hours ago|
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It's not cheaper if the price of admission is $20 for the first taste. And it's definitely not cheaper to pay per-token versus using my GLM-5.2 quota.
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upvoteby simianwords3 hours ago|
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Again this is a resolution problem. Your tasks are small enough that fit into a nice $3 quota. If you are an enterprise or a power user, the right-sizing argument doesn't work.

I'm talking about API prices - subscription is a different game.

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