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> Was it level 5? of course not.

You realize there are fully autonomous waymo cabs operating at "level 4" in several regions... today. Anybody can download the app and ride in them now.

Google didn't go around promising this "next year" every year for the last decade. They just went out and did the work to make the product work, and released it.

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None of that matters, unless you can buy a Tesla with FSD enabled. This has been promised so many times, for so many years, that it's become a bit of a joke.
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You can, https://www.tesla.com/fsd

Are you trying to invent your own definition for self driving and quibble that supervision negates what the car is doing?

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I'm not redefining self driving, tesla is: https://electrek.co/2025/09/05/tesla-changes-meaning-full-se...

When they first started talking about it in the mid-teens, it was pitched as "read a book or take a nap"

That is not what Tesla is selling in 2026.

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