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by NoboruWataya9 hours ago |
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upvoteby nodja9 hours ago|
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I'm the same way, I have a very low/sporadic usage of any subscription I've tried. I now just use openrouter with DS4 pro/flash. It also gets rid of usage anxiety where I would try to justify the $20/month by forcing myself to use the tokens for projects as the weekly limit deadline neared.
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upvoteby andai9 hours ago|
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I've been asking about psyops and bioweapons and I'm still going strong. I did get a Sonnet session shut down the other day though which feels like some kind of achievement.
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upvoteby ignoramous9 hours ago|
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> My initial thought was to sign up for ChatGPT, but I had $20 in OpenRouter so I've been trying out DeepSeek V4 Pro with Pi for the last few days and I gotta say, it's good enough for my use case

If you prefer subscriptions, OpenCode Go ($10/mo), Cline Pass ($10/mo), Atlas Code ($20/mo), and CommandCode ($1/mo) serve some of the best open weights with generous limits. OpenCode Go currently offers $120 for $10 on DeepSeek Flash v4 (if you're okay with data retention).

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upvoteby kzrdude7 hours ago|
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Just trying to understand, https://opencode.ai/docs/go/#privacy currently says DeepSeek V4 Flash has 0 days data retention.

> DeepSeek V4 Flash: ZDR agreement is renewed monthly. The current agreement is valid through August 31, 2026.

Is there other info I should be aware of w.r.t data retention with opencode go? It's hosted in China, so other middlemen may be active (I doubt it, but possible)?

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upvoteby WarmWash7 hours ago|
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If it's hosted in China, they can tell you whatever you want to hear and do whatever they want to do.

What are you going to do? Take a CCP company in front of a CCP judge?

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upvoteby jacquesm2 hours ago|
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They can do the same thing in the US. What are you going to do, sue OpenAI or Anthropic?
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upvoteby WarmWash51 minutes ago|
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Well, yes, because the courts and the AI labs are totally separate entities.

If they are doing it to you, they are probably doing it to others, which makes an easy class action

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upvoteby DiogenesKynikos55 minutes ago|
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You probably could sue them if they really did store your information without your consent.

It would be a hassle, but China does have privacy laws. Companies do get sued for violating them.[0]

0. https://www.chinajusticeobserver.com/a/china%E2%80%99s-top-c...

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upvoteby anon3738397 hours ago|
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Yes. There is a big question mark about whether Anomaly itself (as the OpenCode Go middleman) retains data. The docs were completely silent on this the last time I checked.
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upvoteby 0xbadcafebee7 hours ago|
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According to this code (https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/blob/dev/packages/cons...) only Grok and Luna have 30-day retention, the rest have 0-day retention. Of their legal documents, none mention data retention for anything other than personal data. The exception is if you '/share' which explicitly gives them your session to share over the web with others.
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upvoteby anon3738391 hours ago|
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I haven’t looked at their docs in a little while but they were very precise in saying that the providers follow a zero data retention policy. But Opencode Go proxies the requests, right? I never saw a statement in the legal docs that would limit Anomaly’s right to retain the data passing through.
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upvoteby 0xbadcafebee7 hours ago|
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OpenCode Go does not send any inference to China unless you go into settings and manually select 'Enable models hosted in China'.
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upvoteby ignoramous7 hours ago|
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That's a recent addition I wasn't aware of. Thanks. Previously, OpenCode docs claimed they had no agreement with DeepSeek on data retention for training. Even more previously, OpenCode said they used providers based in US/EU/Singapore (which they no longer do so).
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upvoteby apitman3 hours ago|
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> OpenCode Go currently offers $120 for $10 on DeepSeek Flash v4

At DeepSeek's absurdly low rates or market rates?

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