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This. The UK "wrongthink arrests" were for stuff like calling for a building full of people to be burned down. While the US arrests you for criticising the police chief.
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The UK arrests were also for stickers with: slogans such as “Reject white guilt”, “Nationalism is nurture”, “We will be a minority in our homeland by 2066” and “Diversity – designed to fail, built to replace” - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/16/uk-man-with-...

"Stirring up racial hatred", even merely possessing material that could do so, is a crime in the UK: https://www.thelawpages.com/criminal-offence/Possessing-raci...

Burning the Koran is also illegal: https://spectator.com/article/england-now-has-a-blasphemy-la...

Viewing "far-right propaganda" carries a 15 year jail sentence: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/03/amber-rudd-v...

True factual statements such as "young white girls are being raped by these grooming gangs" come with a nearly 1-year jail term: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce328p9330eo

Note that most of the time, articles are happy to omit actual quotes, instead parroting the prosecution's description of the speech in question, using vague terms such as "racially aggravated comments" or "inciting racial hatred":

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3rq8r4jdgno

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-68086012

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-68074858

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ok good. Except for the viewing thing. That one is crazy. Most of what you described is just disinformation though and I'm fine with the UK taking a different approach than the US.
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That's fine, then there is no need to lie like you did.
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> Most of what you described is just disinformation though

“We will be a minority in our homeland by 2066” is accurate: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/white-briton...

Burning the Koran is not a statement of fact, so it cannot be disinformation.

"young white girls are being raped by these grooming gangs" is also accurate (though the precise number is contentious, mostly because the police turned a blind eye, or even actively aided the gangs): https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/britains-grooming-gang-scandal-rep...

So can you be more specific in what you were referring to as being "disinformation"?

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Why is it we never hear about the Muslim prosecutor who put them away?
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The US rate people for quoting a murder victim and not having the right level of performative grief not seen since Eva Peron died.
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No it did not. Online right wing is trying to push narrative that is all.
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The UK's culture on this stuff has been relatively famous since Orwell coined the term thoughtcrime. The major advantage the US has over the UK historically has been the oceans, but an interesting secondary one is the US was built by people who seemed to have a healthy fear of the extended groupthink sessions that the UK tends to fall into. It's always been something of a problem given how insular their upper class is.

The UK was an amazing leader on liberty in the days when absolute monarchies were the assumed default government, but their free speech standards are a long way from exemplary in modern times.

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Is your privacy really worth giving up to "own the right"?
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> No it did not. Online right wing is trying to push narrative that is all.

It's sad that people don't see what's so obviously happening in the uk. Censorship is alive and well in the uk, and there are plans afoot to further the control of the online world.

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Try reading the whole thing again.

We know there is censorship.

We do not like the censorship.

Americans fund the censorship.

Americans pass laws for censorship.

Americans fund censorship overseas.

UK passes law for censorship.

Americans - See it's the UK fault.

That is the part we are discussing.

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The online world is trash, democracy existed before the internet and it will exist after it becomes an AI slop playground. If you are worried age gates tracking you just speak to people in the real world?
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No, not really. This is a narrative that is pushed by certain segments of the American right (and some of their UK allies). It easily dominates online discussion in an environment where the majority of people posting have no direct experience of life in the UK. Actual life in the UK is very unlike what you would imagine on the basis of reading HN threads, or Elon Musk’s twitter feed.

I suspect that most people with first hand knowledge have simply given up trying to contribute to HN threads about the UK. There is plenty of legitimate criticism to be made of the UK, but here (as you can see from the title) the discourse has degraded to such an extent that the mythically awful UK is held responsible even for bad laws passed by American legislature.

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Yup, apparently people that live their lives in the UK are the indoctrinated ones. Not the majority of the HN crowd that consume whatever the algorithm feeds them and think they are enlightened.
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No disagreement here, but I suppose it's a useful rhetorical trick. Paint something you don't like as "foreign". I've certainly seen Brits use a comparison with the Great Firewall of China to argue against various state surveillance projects.
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