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There are two kinds of vaccine skeptics: a much larger group of people who will in fact have conversations about costs and benefits, and a small group of cranks like yourself that should be treated like the drooling imbeciles that they are.

- Don't live in California

- Risks are considered, but you will never be satisfied

- Long-term risks have been studied with very good methodology.

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Not that anyone who needs this will read it, but "skeptic" does not mean "already made up your mind and will never change it".

People were "skeptical" of vaccines. Then they did science. Now they aren't. Then, yes, people like the guy trying starting this thread who will never be convinced and cannot change his mind.

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There's still value in communicating with cranks. You just have to take a different tack. Just say they're a crank.

Then they hyperventilate about irrelevant details (like California) and other readers of the thread see what the whining is really about.

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