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upvoteby DarkNova61 hours ago|
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"Most of us" is a pretty bold claim.
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upvoteby lukan1 hours ago|
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Well, those are the numbers I found, that matched my intuition:

"Beef: roughly 70–80% of people eat it at least occasionally

Milk and dairy: roughly 85–90%"

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upvoteby enquirewithin1 hours ago|
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With the ever growing popularity and success of the ketogenic diet, it becomes progressively more evident that a plant based diet is massively suboptimal for a not insignificant fraction of people.
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upvoteby williamdclt1 hours ago|
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Our ecosystem dying is also pretty suboptimal.
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upvoteby Llamamoe1 hours ago|
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This has nothing to do with plant and everything to do with rampant prevalence of gut dysbiosis and harmful gut bacteria feeding on otherwise healthy fibers and carbs, as well as processed carbohydrate and sugar overconsumption plus insulin resistance driven by sedentary lifestyles, inflammation, etc.

Ketogenic diet is a band aid to both, not a solution, and plants are not the cause of either problem, either.

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upvoteby choo-t1 hours ago|
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You can do a keto diet without meat.
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upvoteby tonyhart71 hours ago|
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we literally cant, human body its not designed to not eat meat
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upvoteby mschild1 hours ago|
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Not all meat is steak. Reducing and/or exchanging beef for other meat sources can at scale already make a massive difference.

Chicken, for example, produces 10% of CO2 per kg of meat compared to beef.

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upvoteby tonyhart71 hours ago|
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if we going for efficiency, rabbit meat is no 1 choice
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upvoteby JoeyJoJoJr1 hours ago|
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But the human hand was designed to hold a banana.
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upvoteby lukan1 hours ago|
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Not quite true, but cooking becomes quite a bigger challenge.

But mainly, beef and meat is not the same, cattle needs way more ressources than chicken for example, or well, insects.

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upvoteby hutattedonmyarm31 minutes ago|
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Oh, I didn’t realize that I dropped dead years ago when I stopped eating meat
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upvoteby shiandow1 hours ago|
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There are other sources of meat.

Also dairy is not a meat.

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upvoteby tempfile1 hours ago|
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Ridiculous comment. The human body is not designed at all, and is very much capable of surviving without milk and meat. It's not even very hard!
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upvoteby lukan1 hours ago|
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Surviving and prospering aren't the same things, though. And you do need to mind a lot of substitutes you now need, if you just let go of meat.
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upvoteby ben_w1 hours ago|
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It's not *that* hard to prosper with even a vegan diet in the modern world, I know several who do fine.

Hardest part is knowing implicit animal ingredients you might not otherwise guess, which almost tripped me up when I visited the US and (as a vegetarian*) almost bought some yogurt before reading the ingredients list and finding to my surprise that it contained gelatine.

* it's mainly the cheese; I've substituted out other uses of milk. Also, vegan yogurt is a thing now, not sure when that happened, before or after that visit.

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upvoteby choo-t1 hours ago|
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There is no health reason to eat meat. You can get your B12 elsewhere.
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upvoteby hackernud3s1 hours ago|
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You can get it from supplements. That's about it though.
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upvoteby ben_w1 hours ago|
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Supplements if you're vegan, there are vegetarian sources.

Just looked up the Wikipedia page to check on vegan, and… looks like all the animal and plant "sources" actually ingest the stuff from elsewhere?

  Since only bacteria and some archea possess the genes and enzymes necessary to synthesize vitamin B12, plant and algae sources all obtain the vitamin secondarily from symbiosis with various species of bacteria,[5] or in the case of fermented plant foods, from bacterial fermentation.[86]
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12
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upvoteby IsTom1 hours ago|
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TBH fortified yeast flakes are a pretty good spice.
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upvoteby Aefiam1 hours ago|
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It literally is designed to survive without meat, meat used to be a luxury that was only eaten on special occasions for most people in history, we only eat so much nowadays because it became so cheap
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upvoteby lotsofpulp1 hours ago|
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And yet the most populous country in the world has an enormous contingent of people who do not eat meat (on the order of hundreds of millions).
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upvoteby firebot1 hours ago|
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Sure and like half of them have anemia.
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upvoteby tonyhart71 hours ago|
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who ?? if you talking about indian, they still eat meat (around 6 - 12 pound every year)
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upvoteby ben_w1 hours ago|
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Mean != distribution.

The mean human has approximately one ovary, one testicle. A few hundred million Indians refusing all meat is compatible with the others not doing that.

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upvoteby lotsofpulp1 hours ago|
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“Indian” does not seem to be a sufficiently cohesive group to qualify referring to them as “they” (in this matter).

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/religion-and...

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