By that standard, the release of Grok 4.6 was also timed on the same day.
replyGiven how I think DeepSeek operates... I think they just release it when they feel it's ready, and don't even seem that concerned with what other people are doing.
Their leaks would confirm this sort of attitude. They're not trying to become the top player or anything like that - just working to play their part in pushing LLM tech forward and going from there. It was quite refreshing from the 'here's how we're going to dominate the world' nonsense. It's undoubtedly the same attitude that just lets them shrug and cancel the fund raising round after the leaks came from said funding round.
replyThe founder of DS's stated goal is to get to AGI. He thinks this is the path to get there.
replyKind of interesting, when compared to the hubris from American frontier labs.
> Kind of interesting, when compared to the hubris from American frontier labs.
replyOne Man’s “hubris” is another man’s “marketing campaign.”
Drama sells.
Benefits of having a well performing hedge fund funding DeepSeek.
replyIIRC, Demis attempted to start a fund inside DeepMind but it was killed off. In an alternative world where he manages to pull that off, perhaps DeepMind would still be independent with Demis at the helm.
Their stance on LLM development is why they earned my respect in a time when OpenAI and Anthropic only earn my mistrust.
replyThat, and the fact that DS is an insanely capable model.
Actually, yes. I just didn't know about Grok's release because they aren't on the front page of HN.
replyOfficial pricing only kinda matters for an open weight model, no?
replyIt still matters as a point of comparison until other providers come online. If the consensus price from other providers is much different that can be compared then. But for now we have $0.435 / $0.87 for v4 Pro 0813 (with increase announced but we don't know the new pricing), and $2 / $6 for Qwen3.8-max. So until we get other data points that is what we have to look at.
replyI wondered if the promised change in pricing is actually going to be deepseek bringing up their cached costs. They're extremely inexpensive.
replyI mean at the rate of model releases happening, I think a lot of these will collide more often than expected!
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