They did release the weights and there are many providers https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash-0731#provid...
replyDeepseek's official API has a pretty bad privacy policy so I would assume businesses avoid them in any event
Yes, I assume US customers are more likely hobbyists, but in any case this off-peak designation can only mean that most of their business is domestic.
replyInterestingly it seems that Chinese customers are even more privacy-concerned than US ones, which is why the majority of Ziphu's (GLM) business is support services to Chinese companies running their open-weight models on-prem!
it says they actively train on your data
replyYes - unusually (uniquely?) bad for an official API.
replyWhich is a real bummer because it’s otherwise solid with excellent caching.
My feelings are kind of split about it. On one hand, yes, I don't like it when a company essentially go through my history, train with it, and try to earn more profits for themselves based on what I've "unwillingly contributed". But then on the other hand, I also know that DeepSeek will release the weights they train (and publish new architecture upgrades) so me and others can download them and run them ourselves, as well as they'll earn more profits based on it. Then it's no longer so black and white for me, and I kind of feel like I'm not so bothered by it as when Anthropic and others do it.
replyI'd still prefer it wasn't like that, but I guess it's a compromise ultimately, at least I'll be able to run it myself.
we should get discounts for that!
replyDeepSeek still has the best prices on offer directly. I wouldn't go with a US provider unless latency or privacy was an issue.
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