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by Cider99862 hours ago |
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upvoteby aeturnum2 minutes ago|
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I think that, if you are under the impression that having an administrative back door is an unpopular feature, then you should speak to more of your non-technical friends about their experience of technology. I think you'll find that the people who could most benefit from a password manager often don't have good credential management and would be worse off if they lost all their passwords when they forgot or lost their master password.
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upvoteby bitpush1 hours ago|
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F. Scott Fitzgerald's test of top-tier intelligence -

> Holding two opposing views in the mind means accepting two contradictory ideas at the same time without needing to pick one side or rush to a simple answer

I continue to use Apple products because they are top class even though everytime I think of Tim Cook in the Oval Office presenting the gold plaque to the current president, it makes me wanna puke. World isnt black or white.

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upvoteby Cider998639 minutes ago|
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The reason I mentioned it is because Google seems to have a strange aversion to E2EE. Apple has added the option to iCloud but Google only has one consumer facing E2EE producted, Google messages. A password manager is the most obviously important place to use it. I can't name another password manager that isn't.
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upvoteby rpedroso27 minutes ago|
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How many customers are using Google Password Manager? How much revenue does it generate? What would it cost to add E2EE? How would it affect the UX? How much revenue would it generate? What projects would have to be de-prioritized to fund this work?

I agree, a password manager without E2EE is unusable in my eyes. However, I can also understand the institutional reasons this might be the case. I don't think it reflects an organizational aversion to E2EE.

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upvoteby amazingamazing2 hours ago|
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If you think about it for a moment you will realize the average user does not want that.
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upvoteby kingleopold1 hours ago|
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yes, lastpass get $ tens millions because its weak and gets hacked not because its realiable, secure and great.
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upvoteby rexpop2 hours ago|
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I suspect that your one moment of thought follows many years of contemplation. Maybe you can fill us in on some of that background.
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upvoteby giovannibonetti2 hours ago|
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E2E encryption means that if the user loses the keys, there is no way to recover that even if they contact support and prove the data belongs to them.
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upvoteby amazingamazing2 hours ago|
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How do you make e2e password management work on multiple devices as convenient as not? You cannot.

Most people who use Google trust them. And if you do not trust them then why are you using their password manager? You see? Hence why they do not bother.

Of course one might read this and say, multi device e2ee is possible! Sure, but can you allow for recovery when people inevitably lose their recovery codes at scale? If you really care about this it is not necessary to go with Google.

I stand by my original comment:

The average user does not want it.

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