That’s for i/o tokens, mostly output. 90-98% is cache read usually, so you can divide electricity use by 10 at least.
replyAs for co2, it depends on the provider, it could be way lower as well.
As for ethics, you don’t know what he works on, and how effectively - he might be saving 10x that much of co2 for the planet.
I'm glad someone is voicing this. Overconsumption at that level is not defensible. However if they meant cached tokens so it's not that bad.
replyI can't speak for that guy, but I'm a physicist and work in clean energy... So it's not too hard! That said, I usually am closer to 10M on days I do heavy coding, so not nearly that bad.
replyToken caching is a thing
replyYou really think OpenAI is selling $1500/mo of electricity (at $0.05/kwh) for $200/mo?
replyI’m guessing that Wh/token estimate is several orders of magnitude too high.
They certainly could be using that much electricity at a loss based on their profitability, which doesn’t exist.
replyLeaked financial documents from 2025 show the company reported an operating loss of approximately $20.9 billion against $13.1 billion in revenue.
As a company... but that includes things like research costs, model training etc. to determine if they're selling electricity at a loss you should look at inference costs bc that's the "thing" they're selling
reply1. You do not know what they're using it for.
2. Get off your high horse please.
3. Immoral my ass.
reply> Immoral my ass.
replyIs any amount of tokenmaxxing moral?
Is any form of energy usage moral?
reply> just to generate slop
replyDo some people still deny you can do a shit ton of work with AI?
Most tokens are cached.
reply"slop"? come on. we're not in 2020 anymore, Dorothy.
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