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by rob744 hours ago |
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upvoteby grapheneos4 hours ago|
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> they are making the source available

Not in the preferred form for modification expected by the build system and not in a reasonable amount of time. It's artificially delayed with no legitimate reason.

> And the number of people who buy new Pixels to immediately install GrapheneOS on them is (no offense) negligible

Nearly all of our current users bought a device specifically to install GrapheneOS. Our current userbase is around 500k and many of those are users had one or more earlier devices with GrapheneOS. Our userbase is rapidly growing. Look up how many Pixels are actually sold in a year. It's not negligible at all.

There are also many large companies wanting GrapheneOS devices with official support from the OEM.

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upvoteby rob743 hours ago|
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Sorry, I stand corrected: Despite owning a Pixel 9 Pro myself, I didn't realize Google's Android phones market share was so tiny (1.1%! according to https://www.appbrain.com/stats/top-manufacturers). In that case, of course, the number of Pixels bought because of GrapheneOS could be a significant fraction.
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upvoteby microtherion2 hours ago|
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That’s 1.1% of ~1.1-1.2B Android phones sold per year. I dont’t know how long the average GrapheneOS user holds on to their device, but if 25% of them per year buy a new phone (rather than upcycling a used one or using their previous phone another year), that would amount to about 1% of Google’s annual sales at best.
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upvoteby palata3 hours ago|
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> so you can't even realistically sue them

Genuinely asking: are you a lawyer?

Sounds to me that going from "it works easily and rapidly" to this deserves a big big fine. That's the only thing they understand.

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upvoteby rob742 hours ago|
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No, I'm not (a lawyer might recommend to sue, hoping for a big payout, even if the chances of it happening are small?). I looked at the GPL text, and what Google is doing is really pushing the "If you convey a covered work, knowingly relying on a patent license, and the Corresponding Source of the work is not available for anyone to copy, free of charge and under the terms of this License, through a publicly available network server or other readily accessible means", but others have done the same or worse, and so far fines that are really painful for a large company are few and far between...
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upvoteby lukan1 hours ago|
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The main thing here is it used to work faster and google surely can deliver data fast - but now they intentionally changed procedure to make it slower. That could be fined for going against the spirit of the licence contract.
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