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by mort962 hours ago |
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upvoteby nazgulsenpai2 hours ago|
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IMO the issue is that the same group stewarding Wayland was also xorg, and intentionally stifled improvement on xorg even when the work just a matter of merging the PR.
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upvoteby mort961 hours ago|
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Merging a PR by drive-by contributors is far from trivial. As the maintainer, you become responsible for the other person's code for all eternity; it's on you to read it, understand it, update it when stuff around it changes, and fix it when it breaks.

Not a problem for obviously-correct changes of a couple of lines, but most PRs aren't like that.

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upvoteby nazgulsenpai1 hours ago|
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I understand and that's a fair point. I should have phrased that differently, in that the PRs for features were waiting to be merged. I'm sure merging into a codebase as... storied? as xorg is no small task.
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upvoteby dralley2 hours ago|
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>and intentionally stifled improvement on xorg

Open source developers are not required to spend their time prioritizing your priorities. You just have to look to Xlibre to see that a lot of contributions are quite bad quality, and in a C codebase of Xorg's complexity and security profile it's not a small job to review things.

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upvoteby nazgulsenpai1 hours ago|
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Nothing I said in any way implied that freedesktop should be required to do anything. I can't speak to the quality of xlibre merges, only that if whatever is going on over there led to improvements in xorg after a drought, that's a good thing.
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upvoteby wing-_-nuts2 hours ago|
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If wayland had been sold as a hardened display for those who needed that level of security, I would not have a problem with it.

As it is, the community got constantly browbeat with 'this is the future' and 'it's so much faster!' when recent benchmarks have proven that to be false.

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upvoteby mort961 hours ago|
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Then go use X. Nobody's stopping you, you can just ignore any brow beating. /ignore is a useful IRC command.

You'll probably find it to be a not great experience, since almost all the people who spend their time actually working on graphics and GUIs in the Linux world prefer to work on Wayland. So X doesn't get much love these days (and you're not entitled to their efforts after all). But it's not like they erased all the old X code from existence.

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upvoteby normie300054 minutes ago|
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> You'll probably find it to be a not great experience

I'm confused where I'm likely to be suffering. If I start using Wayland tomorrow would I even notice? Apart from having to switch DEs, of course.

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