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That will continue with only cars made in Canada not having Canadian tariffs. You make 100,000 cars in Canada everything above that amount is subject to tariffs.
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The last ~60 years have been a process by which the North American auto industry has been so heavily integrated that there is no such thing as a car made entirely in one country or another, especially in the Detroit–Windsor corridor.

Canada has manufacturers that the US doesn't (and won't for at least 5 years) and vice-versa.

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Autos are more obvious than the dairy industry, even though Trump claimed a couple of days ago that the reason there was an imminent deal is because Canada allegedly agreed to eliminate dairy tariffs? Trade negotiations have stalled almost certainly because Canada isn't actually willing to give up dairy tariffs.
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Besides dairy, one of the last major quota based protected industries in Canada was the taxi industry. It's interesting to compare and contrast the two. It used to be that if you could put together enough of a down payment to get a loan to pay $1M for a taxi license or for a quota allocation for 20 cows you'd be set for life, as long as you were willing to put in long hours. We had no qualms throwing the taxi drivers under the bus, but are willing to go to the mat for those dairy producers. Is it because taxi drivers were mostly brown skinned?
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Without food sovereignty or at least multiple external sources of supply, we don’t have real sovereignty. While I may or may not support supply management, I don’t support any arrangement which could permit the USA to gradually undermine the Canadian industry and eventually become the dominant supplier of a key source of Canadian nutrition.

We now know that if we allow other countries to have undue leverage over us, they will eventually use it against us. Have to think long term here. What kind of Canada will my grandchildren inherit?

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> eventually become the dominant supplier of a key source of Canadian nutrition.

Isn't that already the practical reality when the USA has unfettered access to sell the food the animals eat in Canada? Having control over the milk supply doesn't offer much when you don't have any live cows in which to produce it with.

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Food is much more important on Maslow's hierarchy than taxis.
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Which is why Canadians wanting a protected monopoly is especially interesting. Usually when something is considered important we want everyone to have access to it, not only the handful of elites who get legal control over it all.

I suppose that explains why Canadian's won't allow the staple foods to also be supply managed, only accepting it for luxury foods (and once tobacco) that wouldn't cause a crisis if they disappeared, but on that realization we're back to dairy being more like taxis than essential calories.

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The dairy cartel is very strong in Canada (similar to the maple syrup one). They are deeply embedded in the government.

It'd be like trying to convince the US to reduce their Corn cartel. Except the corn industry keeps prices low, paid for by the American tax payer and demand mandates, and the Dairy cartel keeps prices high so consumers pay for the lack of competition.

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Plausible.

The Quebec PM did say that if the dairy industry wasn't happy they wouldn't put US alcohol badk on the shelves, which would have effectively killed the whole thing.

While a factor I doubt this is the whole story though.

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> While a factor I doubt this is the whole story though.

No story can be told in a HN comment. No story can be fully told in words.

However, having spent much of my existence around the Canadian diary industry it is clear that it has always been the biggest sticking point in US and Canada relations. Not just today, but that's been the case for my entire life.

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> you have never been able to buy American milk in canada.

That’s not really true. The US has 5% of the quota, tarrif free. Which they don’t even fully use. But, to be sure, it does get used. You absolutely can buy American milk products in Canada.

The problem is that they have to go through the processors to satisfy the processors' own quotas so by and large the meager 5% isn’t worth the operational complexity vs just buying milk locally for the processors. The US wants to be able to go directly to the grocery stores.

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Can you please stay within the site guidelines when commenting on HN? Your last several comments have been breaking them in various ways.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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You probably wont regardless. milk itself wants to be drunk pretty quickly after being produced, and thus pretty close.

what changes is parts that arent so visible - milk powders, sugars, proteins, etc, that are inputs into ultraprocessed foods like a cheezit

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It’s a cool story but one only has to go to Statistics Canada/Agri-food Canada to see exactly how much US milk is imported into Canada. Hint: it is substantially more than none.
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Milk vs. dairy products. I'm sure there's plenty of cheese/dairy based products. But liquid milk?
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Canada imports roughly 65 million litres of fluid milk from the USA each year.
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Canada produces ~9-10 billion litres of milk a year. 65 million is less than a percent. That also doesn't mean 65 million of litres of liquid milk ends up on store shelves, that could be going into other products. It's extremely hard to find non-Canadian liquid milk on Canadian store shelves.
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> 65 million is less than a percent.

I mean, what were you expecting? Like before, they only have access to 5% of the market tarrif-free, and, in practice, cannot even use all of that due to the practicalities of 5% not being all that operationally useful to the Canadian processors. The US hasn't been bemoaning these tariffs for longer than I've been alive (and I'm quite old by HN standards) because the market is flush with their goods...

> It's extremely hard to find non-Canadian liquid milk on Canadian store shelves.

Hard is a long way from never. Yes, the volume is negligible, but known to be non-zero. Although we'd really have to understand the makeup of the milk to know how common you consuming it is. If every jug has a tiny drop of US milk in it then the chances of you encountering US milk on store shelves is actually quite high. It is highly unlikely that any jug will be 100% US milk. It is not like anyone is going to take the time to painstakingly separate it into a separate tank before bottling. Milk is milk.

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