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by HEmanZ3 hours ago |
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upvoteby srveale3 hours ago|
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"Republicans will jail the innocent if democrats jail the guilty" really says a lot
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upvoteby HEmanZ2 hours ago|
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You have to be insane to think it is that black and white.
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upvoteby hluska1 hours ago|
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> “Once we get in power, we’re throwing all democrats involved with his jailing into prison”

You implied that Democrats would be jailed for following the law with this comment.

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upvoteby mullingitover1 hours ago|
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> He’s seen by at least 50% of the population as completely valid.

This is laughable.

He never hit 50% in the popular vote, and that doesn’t count the ‘none of the above/don’t care’ non-voters. That was at the peak of the oligarch-funded campaign that saw record-smashing spending and advertising to gin up support.

His popularity immediately fell after the election and has been sliding the entire time he’s been in office. A majority of voters supported his impeachment shortly after he started the Iran war in back April and he’s even more unpopular now.

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upvoteby krapp3 hours ago|
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> If you only support democracy when your side wins then you are just an authoritarian who wants democratic cover.

Yeah, no. Obviously not what I said, or what my comment implied, and you're not even trying to respond in good faith.

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upvoteby HEmanZ2 hours ago|
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No sorry I’ll be more nuanced.

Unless Trump does something egregious enough in the coming years that the case against him is rock solid, black and white, and heavy, any move to jail him and those around him is impossible to distinguish from political targeting. I have not seen evidence of something out of line enough, no matter what Reddit hive mind thinks.

So with the knowledge I have, I’d say any serious push to jail him and his team would be terrifying. If we get crystal evidence of bribery that holds up in court and is clear enough to sway a large swath of Republicans, then that’s great. Still a worse outcome than there not being something black and white to nail him with, but I think that case democracy survives. But not “trumped up” charges.

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upvoteby Alacart1 hours ago|
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It’s a good thing that they’ve committed many blatant and easily provable criminal acts then. The type you spend the rest of your life in prison for, if you’re not being protected by captured systems. Market manipulation, insider trading, embezzlement are all happening obviously and publicly, just to start. Bribery and corruption at many levels, illegal use of things like ICE, illegal detention, ignoring and abusing courts and the judicial system, whatever the hell they’re doing with crypto, the list is basically whatever crime you can think of. I understand you, and that it will mean republicans and their base won’t be swayed, which will create huge problems. But we’re well past the point that anything would ever sway them. There’s no easy way out now, the choice is being increasingly abused by them forever or taking the hits now to stop it. Pulling punches now will only ensure that it comes back 10x worse later.
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upvoteby HEmanZ22 minutes ago|
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If I had to guess at anything it would be bribery, market manipulation, and crypto related business. The others I just don’t see even making it through, there is way too much room for interpretation of powers.

“Pulling punches now will only ensure that it comes back 10x worse later” and using punches will what, subdue? This is half the political power of America you’re talking about punching. Republicans will what, roll over? You think democrats win handily enough to end it?

It escalates the blood feud. The way out of a blood feud is de-escalation, amnesty, forgiveness, working together. Not demanding more blood, even if you think it is perfectly justified.

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upvoteby goatlover3 hours ago|
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His approval rating is somewhere between 30%-35% depending on the poll. So no it's not 50%.

> You’re just as bad as Trump.

No, Trump's 2nd term is in the running for most corrupt administration in American history. Even what Nixon did would just be another scandal for this administration that would leave the news cycle in a couple weeks.

He, or at least his officials and family need to be held accountable. That is the right, just and Constitutional thing to do.

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