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by mpweiher6 hours ago |
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upvoteby amarcheschi5 hours ago|
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I haven't followed the legislative process, where can I find that the eu wanted a single registry but the country pushed for national ones? Because i have never read it.

I'm not saying it's not true, it's just that it's so hard to follow these things when one is supposed to have a life as well

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upvoteby mpweiher1 hours ago|
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There has been reporting on this in many places. Here is one:

https://packaging-journal.de/en/eu-commission-wants-to-scrap...

"According to the Händlerbund, the European Commission's proposal to abolish the requirement has been on the table since December 2025. However, discussions in the Council of the EU were suspended a few weeks ago after a majority of member states spoke out against it."

"A restricted version is currently being discussed in the European Parliament. According to this, an exemption is only to apply to micro-enterprises with up to 49 employees and an annual turnover of a maximum of 10 million euros. A first reading is scheduled for October 2026 at the earliest."

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upvoteby Avamander5 hours ago|
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You have to use the FOIA-equivalent of your member state to get access to the documents submitted to the EU by your country.
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upvoteby antiloper6 hours ago|
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> member states do shitty stuff and blame the EU.

The crooked MEPs also voted in favor of this law. They are just as culpable.

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upvoteby Turneyboy6 hours ago|
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Why would the implementation of this not simply be a fee that the mail carriers have to impose?

Isn't that by far the simplest solution that removes any and all bureaucracy for almost everyone and still catches 99% of the cases?

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upvoteby Yizahi6 hours ago|
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It's all about PR. If EU formulates the new law like they are fighting against pollution and plastic garbage, it sounds nice enough to the electorate who are content with greenwashing and won't investigate much. And 99% of population won't ever a hear a word about real issues by the sellers, to them sellers would quietly and imperceptibly start disappearing. But a direct fee sounds more like a tax hike and the same electorate ordering packages from foreign shops would definitely remember that.
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upvoteby codingbot30006 hours ago|
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Good point.

If I were a small seller I would just ignore this, like many sellers on Temu do. Before you get into trouble, someone must take notice that you did not register for the recipient fiefdom's protectionism racket. And if that happens, it is not sure that you really are in trouble. As with the GDPR, this kind of regulation is almost unenforcable in practice.

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upvoteby mrtksn6 hours ago|
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It's always like this, EU is in urgent need of becoming a country in some form and local government deal with local stuff only.

It shows up in the stats, citizens almost always trust EU more than their governments and want EU to have more power but all this means those local governments becoming less important and therefore no one is really pushing for it.

Fingers crossed Trump invades Greenland so things can start moving.

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upvoteby antiloper6 hours ago|
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> It's always like this, EU is in urgent need of becoming a country in some form and local government deal with local stuff only.

The lesson is the opposite: The EU needs LESS power, not more. If the member states didn't have a cartel to tyrannize their collective population, this regulation could never have happened. Any single country that would try to enforce this would be on its own.

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upvoteby mrtksn5 hours ago|
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Nope, less power means the current situation will be the default as each country by default will have their own body and rules to govern instead of one rule and one body that handles the whole continent.

Unlike what you appear to believe Europeans are not some libertarian captured by the EU socialist, most europeans do want less wasteful and less harmful packaging.

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upvoteby antiloper5 hours ago|
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Do most Europeans want all of their E-commerce to be only handled by American and Chinese megacorporations without local players? Because that is the effect of this regulation. Instead of a SME shipping a cardboard box, it will be Amazon or Temu.
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upvoteby nickff4 hours ago|
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This also negatively affects smaller trading partners, and makes (bi-lateral) trade with the EU much less appealing to them. This means that countries like Canada are less likely to maintain trade agreements which open their market to all sorts of EU goods.
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upvoteby mrtksn5 hours ago|
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You are not arguing in good faith, such a loaded question. I will leave it here, too much BS in one comment to deal with it
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upvoteby antiloper5 hours ago|
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And "do you want less wasteful" packaging isn't? Because of this question businesses got priced out of shipping from the EU to the EU.
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upvoteby mrtksn4 hours ago|
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nope, irrelevant
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upvoteby A_D_E_P_T2 hours ago|
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> Any single country that would try to enforce this would be on its own.

Actually they'd have no retroactive way to enforce it at all, and the most they'd be able to do would be to charge an import duty on a per-parcel basis, which would ultimately be borne by the importer.

This would be a huge improvement over the utter nonsense they're implementing!

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upvoteby cute_boi2 hours ago|
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Trump couldn't invade Iran, forget Greenland.

EU will be in mess forever because it is problem of power and greed.

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