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It's interesting to see how defensive some of these pro-China posters get on HN and elsewhere. I'm genuinely curious why there seems to be an inferiority complex here with respect to America/American companies.
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China follows foot-in-the-door tactic per the Art of War. (done in HK, Korea, Singapore, and Malaysia)

This in-turn later on, AIs will train to make pro-China comments as AIs train on these.

They got the sheer man-power, and with AIs it's even easier.

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I'm not a pro-china poster, i'm from germany and didn't find this 'funny'.

Apple is the second richest company on the world (which doesn't need help/protection?!) and they have experts in chip design.

Xiamoi is some random chinese company not known for high end chips and was able to catch up impressivly in a short period of time.

This fact doesn't get funny or wahtever just because apple brought out a new chip today.

I'm not a fanboy for any of it and do not care.

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> Xiamoi is some random chinese company not known for high end chips and was able to catch up impressivly in a short period of time

Xiamoi is a huge company and is a commonly known brand. They’ve been making chips for a long time. They didn’t start a few months ago and catch up with Apple on their first try.

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Yeah I know but that wasn't what I was hinting at.

I mean you expect some company which did some android rom, a smartphone, IoT Robots stuff a car?! and now makes a chip which can compete with apple.

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Are they well known in China? I'm seeing that Chinese tech has decoupled from the West. They have all this cool stuff that we do not hear about because they aren't selling it to us because they don't need to. It's usually been stuff with better price to performance or ultra low prices though, rather than ultimate performance stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if they made a top end chip that everyone in China knew about, and we didn't.
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> random chinese company

Oh i have soooo many news for you!

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> Xiamoi is some random chinese company

That might be the funniest thing I read all day. Xiaomi is a massive company that makes all sorts of things, including a lot of pretty high-end mobiles, and has an annual revenue in the order of 75 billion US.

It’s no Apple, but it’s not exactly “some random Chinese company” either.

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> catch up impressivly in a short period of time.

They're using ARM designed cores. So it's more like Apple just isn't as far ahead of ARM as some people claim.

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Intereresting point I will try to see if i can find more about it. I would assume apple has a lot more magic sause than just TSMCs best node and a little bit of ARM architecture addons.
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> apple has a lot more magic sause

Why would you assume that? ARM has been a chip design firm for 35 years...

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I find pro apple comments funnier; but you know, everyones got their own rose colored glasses.
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I wish I could understand how they created a cult like following despite having mid tier products.

They somehow convinced people low power consumption on CPU mattered.

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>They somehow convinced people low power consumption on CPU mattered.

As an ARM processor enthusiast since the 90's, it's all I care about.

I'm not convinced it will ever stop being important.

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Battery life in mobile products doesn't matter now?
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Yeah I'm sure you use 6 hours of battery life before you find a charger and aren't a loyalist to a corporation.
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I think it's great but it's important to remember that we haven't seen Xiaomi's chips in actual devices under real world tests. We don't know if the speeds are sustainable, under what wattage, etc. Competition is still great and I look forward to learning more, of course.
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I find it funny not because I support Apple. I find it funny because it feels like the leapfrogging happened in early superscalar CPU evolution. The era when the Moore's Law was working.

I enjoy it because of progress, not because of Apple.

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They didn't. It's an off the shelf chip, the threads on that post dismantled it pretty thoroughly as a false claim.
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25 day old account, very first comment about using US models because you can't trust China? Be gone russian bot

@TRACK: yipinwong

Just kidding but seriously man, this level of paranoia isn't healthy. Try talking about it with someone you trust. The comment you're replying to is completely normal.

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ty for the concern.

I'd like to back up my belief and claims based on my metrics and experience.

If data backs it up, then I will apply my baynesian thinking to change my mind.

Anecdotes normally triumphs in real life and biz, but not in online communities.

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I'm just a german dude not finding this 'joke' funny.

I'm not an apple fanboy nor a xiamoi fanboy.

Its impressive that a random chinese company was able to catch up to the 2th richest company with global experts so fast and this achievement is not dimnished just because apple announced their M6 today.

Are you some fanboy?

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I've seen so many I am not from China comment in all of the countries I mentioned like in HK, Japanese, Korea, Malaysia, but all turns out they are. Some of those countries communities expose countries, and yes, they are from mostly Guanzhou.

It's just funny how it's consistent they deny their own heritage. Be proud of who you are.

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There's that legendary German sense of humor.
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