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NVIDIA is one of the most open labs.

They even share many of their pre-training and even post-training datasets for Nemotron on HuggingFace; for example: https://huggingface.co/datasets/nvidia/Nemotron-Post-Trainin...

Which other lab shares this?

Yes, there is no question NVIDIA wants to lock you into CUDA and their hardware. But also, they’ve consistently demonstrated the most openness when it comes to model training, datasets, and research; even before the LLM era (e.g. StyleGAN).

There’s also modelscope.cn (china’s huggingface) which is worth checking out. I would not be surprised if one day, we have to use China VPNs to download open weight models.

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> NVIDIA is one of the most open labs.

Of course they are. They're commoditizing their complement.

I want to own the hardware, not play around in an nvidia fiefdom full of nvidia rules.

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nothing stopping you from doing that
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Are you joking? They just bought HF for $13bill and didn’t break a sweat. They are dominant and spreading.
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NVIDIA is a lot more than a “lab”.
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lol “Everything you said is correct but you’re wrong because I’m thinking about something other than what you were talking about”
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>No need to quote Linus Torvalds here

Evidently we should, because Linus has been more positive about Nvidia in the last 2 years [0]. I've been using the open driver for years now, for both gaming and CUDA.

[0] https://binarymusings.org/posts/talks/linus-on-ai-linux-in-k...

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Nvidia has hardly open sourced the nvcc compiler, yet no-one here is complaining about why it is closed source.

Modular on the other hand creates the Mojo compiler gets criticised for not open sourcing it immediately and now once they do, no-one cares anymore.

Huggingface was not just a target for open source, but as a force to have open weight models run better on Nvidia against the rest.

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I assume it's because nvidia is a hardware company that produces world class hardware, and it's a compiler to target that.

Whereas mojo is a general purpose language, and we're absolutely spoiled for choice on modern languages with open source compilers.

I'm not saying it's fair or right, I still think mojo is neat, but isn't exactly comparing apples to apples.

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We can stop with these weak excuses since AMD and Intel have done more for open source than Nvidia has, including their GPU drivers for Linux.

Nvidia on the other hand has not and the best they have done is a bunch of closed-source blobs which they do more closed source releases than the rest.

Mojo is open source and targets all GPU architectures for their compiler regardless of the vendor and nvcc targets their own (and both that and CUDA are closed source).

So this is directly an apples to apples comparison.

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> no-one cares anymore.

possibly because it took qualcomm buying them to make that happen.

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Just say you don't know.

Mojo was partially open source before Qualcomm bought them, and they were going to do open source it anyway.

Was NVCC or CUDA ever open source since the lifetime of its development?

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> they were going to do open source it anyway.

uh huh.

> Was NVCC or CUDA ever open source since the lifetime of its development?

you ever ask Nvidia why? i did.

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I think it's a plausible play that keeps the AI boom in session for a year or two longer.

Or at least, $13b to stay at the head of the race (or keep the race running) must be worth it to someone's desk.

There's only $50b in datacenter buildout nationally (Source: Gemini, 2026).

So it is a bit of a puzzling choice for what amounts to a pile of software, in my opinion. but I don't know shit.

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Did you just quote an LLM as a citation? That's not how citations work.
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"That's not how citations work." (Dude on the interwebz, 2026)

But more seriously, this is my first time seeing that as well, and I'm not sure I like it. Citing an LLM is a little like citing Wikipedia to me, you cite the primary source the LLM is quoting directly, not the secondary source.

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Yeah it’s the formatting and formality that bothers me. Say “I looked it up with Gemini,” don’t give me sone weak attempt at “proper citation” to legitimize the bare minimum effort you put in.
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A Wikipedia link can be nice when you get several different sources provided.
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Even worse is that Gemini's knowledge cutoff is still Jan '25.
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2026 equivalent of “my Mama told me”
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They’re buying a brand, some employees, and some momentum — not any of their software. HF probably does have propriety goodies to make it all run efficiently, but certainly not a billion dollars worth, much less 13!
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We are so used to these numbers being thrown around in the AI era that something one needs a reminder that this is 13 billion, not million. Insane exit by HF.
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Yeah, the price is weird as fuck.
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