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I think the biggest reason is to own the stack so your model can't be changed out from under you, but maybe I care about that too much.
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> I think the biggest reason is to own the stack so your model can't be changed out from under you,

The concern would be future regulations that prohibit you from buying a hosted version of the model. Even that could be bypassed with a VPN to another country but it's more work to go through the payments.

As long as there is demand for a model, it will be hosted by multiple providers.

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What if the model is hopelessly obsolete, and thus no demand, but I want that specific model? Owning the weights and hardware is not just solving for one problem. It eliminates all the classes of problems that occur outside of your building, if you have a solar and battery setup.

Also, on a more practical basis, what if the way it's served is bad. Maybe I want my specific KV setup, or ultra low quant for entertaining garbage at 200 tk/s

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> What if the model is hopelessly obsolete, and thus no demand, but I want that specific model?

You can still find a lot of old and completely outdated models on OpenRouter. The providers can scale serving of models up and down as demand arrives, so models don't generally disappear. They're just kept in the mix and the clouds will allocate hardware to it if someone is willing to pay.

In the odd case that it disappears completely, buying the hardware 2 years from now is probably going to be a better deal. That wasn't true if you selectively check the time period before hardware got expensive, but as new hardware comes out we're going to start seeing Strix Halo and old Apple hardware hit the market as people upgrade. It's already happening.

There is a certain personality type that cannot tolerate any uncertainty and must lock everything in right now against all future possibilities. If you fit that description then there's nothing anyone can say to discourage you from buying your own hardware, but for everyone else I do not recommend buying hardware to self-host LLMs just to save money. I self-host and run a lot of tokens through my setup (non-coding work) but I'm not really saving money.

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> There is a certain personality type that cannot tolerate any uncertainty and must lock everything in right now against all future possibilities.

I thought HN banned personal attacks. I'm in this sentence and I don't like it. /s

I just buy the good apple hardware because it's good, and it also happens to run local models. It's not as good for the dollar, don't get me wrong, but I'm not going to develop iOS without a mac, that's even more questionable than buying a strix or whatever.

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Also, this makes me wonder if, by using a bicycle generator, and a local model at sufficiently low power consumption, you could directly claim to have produced the text in a really physical way. "Yes, I generated the electrons that made that text work by my own efforts".
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The only reason I'm considering picking one up is I think we're not that far away from compute limitations in consumer hardware.
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I live in a place where using VPN is illegal and akin to "terrorism" because why would you want to hide what you are doing. Only bad guys hide. So if you use VPN, you are a bad guy.

https://srinagar.nic.in/notice/immediate-suspension-of-virtu...

Phones are randomly searched on the streets and if VPN is found, arrested

https://www.medianama.com/2026/01/223-jammu-kashmir-vpn-ban-...

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/after-vpn-ban-in-k...

“Out of the 15 individuals identified, five were minors who were counselled and advised in the presence of their guardians, with emphasis on awareness, lawful digital conduct, and the consequences of violating lawful orders,” he added.

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You do, there's like 20 providers for any model on openrouter. You can also just spin bedrock or gcp and download the weights for later if you're worried. It's never going to make cost sense when the token rate is so low with how expensive ram is
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What if the internet goes away?
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And compliance.
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I think the privacy argument that keeps coming up is overrepresented. Certainly ZDR is enough for an absolute majority of use cases? I see so much talk about local inference but I doubt most of it has privacy as a valid argument (not arguing it doesn't exist). It's fun to do things locally though. I've tried it as well but cloud is just faster and cheaper.
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These companies have displayed zero respect for everyone's intellectual property getting these models trained.

I think not giving them your complete trust is reasonable! I'm not saying zero trust, and ZDR is fine for most things but I understand the people who don't want to stream their whole codebase out token by token.

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Then use other providers hosting open models. Companies and individuals already put their whole code base on the cloud. I'm genuinely interested in privacy-oriented use cases where ZDR is not enough.
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I'm not that worried about the codebase itself. I'm worried about the fact coding agents poke around the terminal and system so much that there is almost a certainty that some of your other personal data ends up in the context somewhere which is getting logged in to a training dataset by random hosting providers.
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ZDR is built on trust. Given that end-to-end encryption fundamentally doesn't work with LLMs, as they need the content to be unencrypted to operate on it[1], you have no way to prove that once your plaintext data is on somebody else's server they aren't doing whatever the hell they please with it. All you have to rely on is their pinky promise that they won't do anything with it. Trust is a valid option, much of our society runs on trust, but you can eliminate the need for trust whatsoever by running on your own hardware.

[1] Yes, I'm aware of experiments to operate on encrypted prompts, but these are only research attempts, not something that could actually be used with frontier models in production.

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Privacy isn’t only, I don’t want anyone to have access to my data. It could also be, I don’t want anyone to know my use case because it’s niche and highly profitable.
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