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by dfxm1211 hours ago |
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upvoteby ChocolateGod10 hours ago|
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Musks company provides not only the most cost effective but also the most reliable access to space that is currently unparalleled by any other company.

We should thank the government for spending tax money efficiently.

You should blame the legacy aerospace companies whom purposely inflate contracts and take forever to do things for there being a lack of competition, not Musk.

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upvoteby Morromist8 hours ago|
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As I see it Musk is lobbying the goverment to give him money to do useless stuff & expensive in space like land on the moon again - basically redirecting funds away from useful stuff like the James Webb Telescope for publicity stunts. Not any different from the legacy aerospace companies, who also lobbied like crazy, except on a bigger, dumber scale.
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upvoteby ChocolateGod8 hours ago|
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Starship is mostly funded by Starlink.

Yes, Musk is a crappy character, but that's not a reason to make things up. This isn't Reddit.

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upvoteby Morromist7 hours ago|
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Starship isn't actually operational. I'll let you look at their plans for it and you can tell me if they involve doing things the goverment would pay for like landing on the moon and building space stations or not.
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upvoteby dotancohen7 hours ago|
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Then you see it wrong. Plans for returning humans to the surface of the moon have been being developed for longer than you've known Musk's name.

The Artemis program was developed out of the Constellation program, which was initiated sometime around 2005 or 6.

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upvoteby Morromist7 hours ago|
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How is landing on the moon not a publicity stunt? What can the humans do that massively cheaper robots couldn't - besides take some awesome photos and bring back some more moon rocks?

Of course there have long been plans to go back to the moon because its a cool fun thing to do and whoever happens to be president would likely be well remembered for taking credit for it. That doesn't give it credibility as a useful endeavor.

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upvoteby ChocolateGod7 hours ago|
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> How is landing on the moon not a publicity stunt? What can the humans do that massively cheaper robots couldn't - besides take some awesome photos and bring back some more moon rocks?

Humans have intuition and curiosity, they can spot something quickly in the distance that looks peculiar, go to it and quickly inspect it.

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upvoteby ralfd6 hours ago|
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Even if it is a publicity stunt it was not lobbied by Elon Musk. Also Jeff Bezos Blue Origin got more money for the Artemis program.
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upvoteby Morromist6 hours ago|
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I see. And how do you you know that elon, a notably close supporter of the president didn't have anything to do with the Artemis program? I notice that Chinese electric vehicles are essentially banned in the US, but probably that had nothing to do with Elon as well right? And what does it matter if Blue Origin also made money on the Artemis program?
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upvoteby andsoitis4 hours ago|
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No need to be so combative.
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upvoteby jryle7011 hours ago|
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> the president giving no bid contacts to incompetent donors

Are you talking about SLS?

Oh maybe you'd say that is "Senate Launch System", it's complicated, job program, 50 states sharing, and so on?

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