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by johnsmith184011 hours ago |
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upvoteby andai10 hours ago|
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I never hit Anthropic's safety filter when I'm doing something illegal, only when I'm not.
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upvoteby epistasis5 hours ago|
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I hit the safety feature when I ask something I saw that blocked other biologists: "why did the chicken cross the road?"

Due to my standard cancer research work I'm blocked from Fable.

That said, with how execrable all the 5 models have been, I can't imagine I'm missing much. It's impossible to get an intelligible explanation in text out of the 5 models, and the mistakes are just comically bad on anything that's not code.

Cancelled my subscription, and can't imagine going back since OpenRouter gives me a consistent model that I can trust won't change underneath me.

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upvoteby tyre4 hours ago|
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Why would cancer work be safeguarded? Are they afraid some cartel is going to, like, invent a stronger cancer?
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upvoteby aenis18 minutes ago|
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The safeguard filter is comically unintelligent. One of my side projects is a strategy game, and in that strategy game one player has a set of jokes, one of them referring to "biological minds". Whenever Fable reads this asset it immediately stops - because of the use of word 'biological', there is nothing else biological about that codebase.

And there is a bug to this bug, if the downgrade happens at close to full context window, there is no taking over this session with Opus -- happened to me twice: it throws some context window exceeded error, suggesting what fits in Fable context, may not fit in Opus's around the maximum. And then and there, an entire session is lost. In fact, there are two bugs, as /resuming such broken session attempts to resume with Fable, burning through tokens.

Oh well, I learned to be careful with the jokes around Fable.

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upvoteby denverllc2 hours ago|
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My theory is that they’re pretending it’s about biological weapons but really they want to charge pharmaceutical companies $$$ to help with research. (Essentially a Mythos type segmentation for biology)
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upvoteby roywiggins2 hours ago|
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Fable zaps anything that seems even vaguely biological.
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upvoteby awwaiid4 hours ago|
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They have some allowance flags, you should email them.
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upvoteby NewsaHackO7 hours ago|
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Honestly, unless what you are doing is frankly illegal, it usually is possible for you to get around most safeguards for coding things if you also know how to write code. Most problems have a separable completely innocuous core that Fable would gladly do. Then you can implement the problematic parts yourself. Particularly things like copyright issues, web scraping etc.
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upvoteby glub5 hours ago|
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> Then you can implement the problematic parts yourself.

Or with another LLM, but yeah. The only issue is when it's a monorepo and fable does ls/grep. I've got a file named `system_prompt` in a completely innocent project and as soon as fable accidentally stumbled upon it - cyber.

Hacked together something with omp and sandbox-exec so that only whitelisted models can see some parts of the project. Works pretty well.

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upvoteby nonethewiser5 hours ago|
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If it doesnt have a context (what you are using it for) then it's happy to do it. If you have X amount of code you can ask it to generate (X/5)5 and there is no problem. Like you said, you have to know what you are doing. You have to know what it needs to write so that you can tell it to write the parts.
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upvoteby stefangordon8 hours ago|
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It dramatically improved about a week ago - most of my blocked projects are now completely functional.
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upvoteby solenoid09371 hours ago|
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The safety filter is simply no longer an issue.
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upvoteby tpowell8 hours ago|
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The last time i ran into that issue it suggested to make sure that a Fable AGENT took over the long-horizon task because, for some reason, agents in a session don't get blocked for security reasons. This may not always be possible, but it worked for me.
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upvoteby johnsmith18406 hours ago|
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That's a good idea but it works from the change in context no? So you lose context from your big model. It's a good suggestion though.
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upvoteby notrealyme12327 minutes ago|
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No idea if subagents are not blocked, but you can set the starting method for subagents to "fork", then they inherit the main agents context
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upvoteby NewsaHackO8 hours ago|
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Do you have the prompt for these? I ask because I have recently asked Fable's help with hardening a docker container (custom dev container CC sandbox) and it didn't get triggered on it at all.
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upvoteby AbstractH249 hours ago|
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The blocks that fustrate me more are tool permisissions. I ask to do something then flip to another screen and come back to see it never started
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upvoteby johnsmith18406 hours ago|
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Auto permission is what ya need.
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upvoteby timcobb6 hours ago|
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> Optimizing a OS build? -> block

Why would fable block optimizing an OS build

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