It has an effect, and it's negative. It's hoped that the effect is negligible, and it probably is, but the whole point is that it has an effect.
It has an effect on the output, but not the output quality
Google has been watermarking text with SynthID for a while now and nobody complained about it. Why all the fuss about Claude?
It feels like the real reason behind most complaints is that people want to use AI for writing and not have others find out?
You either output the best version, or you output something else.
You can't do both.
It only alters outputs when the last layer of the neural network give significant weights to multiple tokens, and it would anyway have picked a random answer.
Instead it picks a non-random one, but non-random in such a way that you can't tell without the private key of the watermarking.
This mostly adds randomness these days for branches in syntax that make no difference, and the model has no reason to believe make a difference. Anything that matters, it is much more confident in the last layer of weights on the token to use.
Others have already said this, but the watermarking is something like "when the model flips a coin picking between two values, always choose heads". It was already flipping a coin. You're not choosing a less good result, you're just using a deterministic process when it was stochastic before.
This will have some impact on outputs, but unless you have some reason to believe that always picking tails was better than always picking heads (in which case, you should be working at one of these companies in model training!) it won't have any impact on output quality.
There is no reason why there has to be a negative effect of text watermarking.
I recommend reading up on it: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08025-4
But no, it only ever picks tokens that are in the probability distribution of the last layer, and it might have picked anyway.
Also, don't apply EU law to the world. It's a knee jerk reactionary regulation by a bunch of aging ding dongs that can't print their emails.
That wasn’t Anthropic. Clearly not a well informed take.
I also had glm 5.3 flash fix an issue that opus 5 could not solve. glm took 4 times as long and a sub-agent tried to cheat (sleep; echo ...), but in the end it actually solved the issue. opus 5 never figured it out.
I think the safeguards might be cooking the anthropic models.
Anthropic told me to use their `security-review` tool - as this was the exact scenario the tool is for - and it still got flagged.
The OP doesn't appear to know what they are talking about. Fable can absolutely be used to develop applications. It's just that for security stuff I use Opus 5. Which is fine for most use cases.
I certainly don't take AI advice from HN, but this is amazing.
Useless? Yes, the safeguards are ridiculous and obnoxious, though I can say that 5.1 greatly relaxes them (just doing a hardening of a project parallel with this comment, which 5.0 refused to do...so did Sol and Gemini, fwiw. The Gemini one is a laugh, because 3.1 pretending like it's a dangerous tool is simply ridiculous at this point), however Fable is extraordinarily useful.
It is, far and away, the most powerful programming model, in my experience. Like, crazily so. It absolutely annihilates Opus 4.6, which I mention given the incredibly weird reminiscing people are doing here.
And for that matter it humiliates Opus 5.0 as well. Opus 5 somehow seems like it's neck in neck in the major benchmarks, but there is simply no reality where that is true. Opus stumbles over everything that Fable just blazes through.
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The fantasy that Opus is superior for coding, much less the incredibly weird clutching onto some far obsolete model, is not reality based.
I don't think there's nothing ground breaking, but sure it achieves and finds more, sooner.
please rephrase?
I'm always baffled at how many people write "of" instead of "have", they don't even sound the same
Wiktionary gives <should've> as /ˈʃʊdəv/, unstressed <have> as /(h)əv/ and unstressed <of> as /əv/.
my view is we had a leap over the last fe years and it's tapering off.
this is fine, but for the IPOs