upvote
What is the confusion? They directly state that you are the product if you use their discounted offering. It isn't an assumption that should lead you to this, it is Meta's very direct communication that should lead you to this
reply
I'm confused what your surprise is here. It's plain and simple right to the point wording.

I don't see the wiggle room at all.

reply
aren't they explicitly saying this with both their pricing and their wording? I'm not sure what you are alluding to?
reply
the meaning is pretty obvious - they want to train on your chats & tasks and are willing to subsidize for the privilege of doing so.
reply
Would it help you understand if they were labelled "For Dumb Fucks" and "For Everyone Else"?
reply
Which ones are the dumfuks? Because if what you’re doing is open source it’s going to be in the training data anyway.
reply
they're doing the same thing as DeepSeek
reply
Privacy is not free. They make it quite clear that they charge more if you don't want your data used by Meta.
reply
I think it's more that the "not used to improve our models" is expensive because companies need that. It's simple price differentiation.

In other words, it's not that Meta really wants your data and they're willing to pay top dollar for it. It's that companies really don't want Meta to have their data and they're willing to pay top dollar for that.

reply
Given OpenAI and Anthropic's behavior, do you really expect them to be singled out for this practice? Zero trust has been in "LGTM" territory for years now. Meta's bet against people taking a principled stance arguably paid off great.
reply