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The goalposts of AGI will shift forever. If you showed our current capabilities to someone from 2016 it would be declared AGI.
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Is anyone from 2016 still alive today?

If so I'm hoping we can track them down and have them tell us if they think this is AGI.

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As someone who spent countless nights tweaking Edge Detectors (looking at you, Canny), morphology operators, etc., building models to recognize 10 handwritten digits, let me tell you: the current set of LLMs (even the smaller ones) seem like magic. I had never imagined a computer would do such things in my lifetime.
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Compared to what we had in 2016 with RNNs, this is effectively “AGI”
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OK, so its way better. that doesn't make it AGI.

If I can't give it an arbitrary task and have it solve that task eventually, it's not a general intelligence.

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Are you guaranteed to solve an arbitrary task eventually?
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If you came at it from the perspective of imitating what the human brain does, we now have a very very powerful speech center and short term memory, and vision catching up. The other parts are missing. I‘m sure that’s being heavily researched.
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True. "AGI" has also become a marketing term. Achieving AGI has become valuable, so companies will move the AGI goalposts, over and over again, so they can achieve AGI, over and over again.
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If i suddenly travel to 1500s i would also be considered genius(in some way)
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I bet you’d think they are not even conscious.
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talking about self proclaimed, it's about as much AGI as openAI is open.
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What test do you propose as the actual go/no-go gauge to verify if some model is or is not AGI?
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If you’re talking some nonsense, silly singularity… than whatever, don’t care.

But if you’re asking when a model has a sustainable general intelligence, for me, it’s pretty easy…

When it makes financial sense to run it 24 hours a day.

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For whom? That is a fantastically ill-defined test. Everyone here is comfortable throwing around this or that is or isn't AGI which is fun because, at the same time, nobody seems to have a testable definition.

It makes either position pointless to argue.

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What does it mean to run a model 24 hours a day?

Aren't we way way past that already? QPS to any of the frontier models for a given point in time is most likely (far) greater than zero.

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I mean the laundromat runs the machines pretty much 24 hours a day but a washing machine is not AGI.

Directly - something can be useful without being AGI.

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There can be no such test because “AGI” is (or has become) a pseudo-philosophical/socio-political concept rather than a scientific one.
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It always has been. The idea around here that we can actually define intelligence and point to it is sophomoric and incredibly frustrating.
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But they declared it...
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“I declare bankruptcy!” - Michael Scott
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I DECLARE AGI!

"Homer, you can't just declare Artifical General Intelligence; you need to like, make something or something...mmmmrrrhh"

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did they?
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"""

In a closed a press briefing earlier today, OpenAI co-founder and president Greg Brockman offered an unusually direct formulation of that message, ending the session with: “Welcome to the AGI era.”

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If you’re trying to tell me this is why my mom telling me how handsome I am didn’t translate to the general populous, I could have used this info about forty years ago.
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Hey now! Keep your reason out of their marketin^H^H lies!
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