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> There's also a fair bit of arrogance from LG: "We own the glass..."

The execs shown in those clips used some pretty revealing language. I also had to do a double-take when they described a customer's (compromised) house as an "LG household," where they "know who's in [it], we know which devices are there... we know how to extend that reach into mobile" and tell advertisers they can "own the living room."

The sense of entitlement is so over-the-top that it's difficult to distinguish from satire.

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I shared this thought with a friend of mine recently, primarily in regards to the use of residential proxies:

They don't care about any effect on the individual people.

They view their thing in a vacuum with some kind of religious fervor. It's a form of psychosis, and it seems increasingly prevalent in tech company leadership and so spreads into those who aspire to be tech company leadership types.

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also, residential proxies don't really affect anyone except Cloudflare, who we should rightfully hate anyway. Spying does.
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Fairly strong disagree. Plenty of damage could be caused to the individual, whether they made the decision to run a residential proxy or not.

Essentially little difference from running a tor exit node.

My position is that I assume that most people running a residential proxy are not aware that they're running a residential proxy. I understand why people use them and how they're useful, but I just don't think there's informed consent. I think they essentially grew out of botnets, or botnets just rebranded into 'residential proxies'.

Having said that, I'm not trying to convince you to change your position. Feel free to continue to disagree with me.

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I don’t have a deep understanding of residential proxies. But if you had an internet plan with a data cap, it would surely count against both download and upload, yeah? That alone is a huge violation.

These companies need to be fined into the dirt. We need a corporate death penalty, to be honest.

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Name the damage
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Police raids due to unsavoury traffic originating from your IP address or participating in a (D)DoS attack or initiating a SWATting.

Would you rent out your Internet connection to unknown parties to do whatever they wanted with?

I've been on the end of one of the above, hence my sensitivity to the topic.

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It's like AI model collapse, where they're surrounded by feedback they're doing everything right, no matter what, for a long time, the feedback loop just drifts away from baseline reality.
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   Are they doing this with all of their other devices as well? Monitors, 
Sort of:

LG monitors silently install software through Windows Update without consent | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48956688

LG monitors installing adware on Windows PCs | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48953226

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