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Chinese models are open, available to distill, and they also publish papers about their research. Being one year behind is a skill issue.

I think the most of the money would go to purchase hardware, But I hope they can start making adequate compensation for AI engineers and researchers to move forward.

by koe1232 hours ago|

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My feeling is that its a difference in how funding works in different places. The USA will go all in with the populations pensions on a gamble, the Chinese subsidize. This way of operating is typical for the EU.

> Being one year behind is a skill issue

E.g. if you are an AI researcher in Europe you can just go to USA and make generational wealth. This is not a criticism of the EU model, but rather insane American capex effectively monopolizing.

> I think the most of the money would go to purchase hardware,

So it's not a skill issue?

by Oras2 hours ago|

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> > I think the most of the money would go to purchase hardware,

> So it's not a skill issue?

I meant by offering sovereign cloud/inference, not for training. But even if it was for training, Chinese labs have limited supply of GPUs, look what they've done. So it is a skill issue.

Also to clarify, I didn't mean European engineers' skills, I meant "you get what you pay for" as a company, that's why I hope they start offering better compensation to retain talent.

by koe1232 minutes ago|

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Understood! Thats reasonable

by skeledrew1 hours ago|

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Where is that skill coming from in the first place? What are they doing to attract, nurture and keep it?

by blitzar2 hours ago|

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> Chinese models are open, available to distill

Handing in a photo-copy of a photo-copy of a photo-copy of a photo-copy of a photo-copy of a photo-copy of someone else's homework might work once or twice, but it is no way to run a (non grift) business.

by koe12324 seconds ago|

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Its not a grift if it works. If a Chinese corp copies at 90% quality at 50% price within a year it means your American business model was never a good one for competing in international markets. The real grift arguably is pretending that it was.