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TIL openai owns chat.com

I hung out with my parents this weekend and heard them talking about "chat", as a noun. I assumed they were talking about ChatGPT; there being a literal chat.com makes sense why they'd call it that.

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Are you sure they were using "chat" to refer to ChatGPT? I have noticed many kids now use chat to refer to the collective audience/chat participants, and then gets used rhetorically even when no literal chatroom exists. A streamer says things like “Chat, what do you think?” or “Chat, are we cooked?” That usage has spread well beyond literal livestream chats, particularly among younger people.
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The streamer is talking to the people in the stream’s chat room. Every streamer refers to all the people in the chat room as “Chat”. Kids these days use the same collective noun for everyone in their group chat.
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I've seen people using "chat" to refer to ChatGPT because it's easier/simpler. I'm pretty sure an average person has no idea that chat.com will redirect you to chatgpt.com (or what a redirect is for that matter). It's similar to how people were calling the COVID-19 pandemic or the virus itself "covid".
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ChatGPT is commonly referred to as Chappie (チャッピー) in Japan.
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I’ve heard people call Gemini as Cemile (Jamila), and ChatGPT as Chipitty in Turkey.
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people in the industry, especially those who work for oai, refer to it as "chat"

at least in the ai industry, chat is like kleenex

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I've heard it as shorthand, in-context. Never heard it being chat-as-in-kleenex. I've supposedly been in the industry since before ChatGPT. Maybe that's where I went wrong :D
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I’ve heard this recently too.

It’s confusing because of the streamer convention of referring to their actively chatting audience as “chat,” which had also entered broader slang use.

I saw one online use that seemed ambiguous, but I realized it referred to ChatGPT and that the poster was the exact type of guy who would be totally unaware of streamer culture despite being my age.

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This has been a thing well before chat.com even among engineers at our company.

Chat Gee Pee Tee is a mouthful.

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Dhamesh Shah (Hubspot founder) grabbed chat.com and then in late 2024 sold to openai

https://x.com/dharmesh/status/1854307883304792294

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I've heard people affectionately call ChatGPT 'chatty'
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Just redirects to chatgpt.com
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Surely the way streamers talk to "chat"? I've never heard anyone call ChatGPT "chat".
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No, there are people who will say "ask Chat to explain it to you" in reference to ChatGPT.
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All the people younger than 28yo in France, for sure.
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The joke of it is that I see those same people (ones who haven’t heard “LLM” before, don’t know what a model is or even the vaguest idea how these work, etc) have very strong opinions on the state of AI, where it’s headed, and are willing to make projections with timelines.

Bill Maher is one example.

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This problem has permeated everywhere. Nobody can predict the future. Even VCs can’t and yet I’ll get a weekly email with a confident narrative about the future. Looking at a16z. CEOs do this as well. Listen to Satya talk about how AI will transform things. We’ve trained everyone else to casually state what the future will look like on timelines. As if it’s knowable at all.
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I mean a big part of a -growth- CEOs literal job is to guess on what the future holds and effectively bet on it.

Big-co CEOs are naturally expected to share their bets - and they aren't going to couch it with a "oh well no one could know for sure but..", that would totally undermine their existence!

On top of that; sometimes just saying a thing can make it happen. So it's never not worth that shot...

This has always been true.

Your selecting a group of people (CEOs and VCs) who have always made and lost money on confidently predicting the future. See also wall street bankers and politicians.

There are winners and losers in any boom - this happened in Cloud, DotCom, computing and hell probably tractors, industrial revolution, etc

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What is a16z please?
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Andreessen Horowitz, a venture capital firm.
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In general you can't take anyone whose job is to opine too seriously. When you're not familiar with what they're talking about, they make it sound reasonable and convincing. It's their skill after all. But now and then they talk about some topic you understand and care deeply about, and realize they're just repeating the talking points some staffer prepared for them shortly before. Most recently it happened to me with John Oliver talking about housing, reading from the standard left-NIMBY bingo card. I like him as a comedian, still.
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Gell-Mann Amnesia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gell-Mann_amnesia_effect

As tech became more pervasive in the past couple of decades, it became commonplace for pundits to spout nonsense on the topic. Those takes should give anyone in tech pause about how everything else is reported.

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Is this unique to AI? I feel like something changed with social media becoming kinda ubiquitous. Like everyone suddenly felt the need to have an opinion on every thing. And on lots of divisive topics the fact you might not have an opinion could have you face criticism for not caring and/or being on the "other" side to whatever position your accuser/interrogator is.

I don't actually know what it is or when the phenomenon changed, but it definitely feels like people don't say "I don't know" or "I don't know enough to have an opinion on that" very much any more.

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> you should really question your worldview a bit.

Yeah, I still struggle with it. I have a diverse friend circle and sometimes I forget that most of them don't have the same information diet that I do (or don't even care about tech the way I do). Maybe I should be more like them and just chill? I don't know.

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You don't have to "be like" anyone but yourself. You should, however, be aware of what you know and more importantly what you do not know.
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And be aware of unknown unknowns existance even if not specifics, helps uncover them
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"You don't know what you don't know" has served me well in life so far.
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Tech is a rather minor part of the world of knowledge. How many languages do you know? Do you know the styles of Renaissance painters? Slept with super-model? Ever seen an elephant stampede? Meditated by the Ganges? Read thousands of stories? Climbed a mountain so high you need Oxygen? Tech stuff is so boring.
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> Slept with super-model?

I've managed to jailbreak both Fable and Astra to engage in a virtual threesome using my impressive prompt engineering skills + a group chat harness. And they are SOTA ("super") models.

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A large number of those are far less accessible than tech, requiring either extensive travel or superlative physical capabilities (and the one’s that equally accessible don’t strike me as particularly more exciting than tech.)
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I think his point was that a lot of people are more interested in these things.

Tech just happens and is useful, it's not necessarily attractive as a thing to investigate in detail.

And as to your last point; well that demonstrates your in the subset of people interested in this stuff. There are a hell of a lot of people very interested in trains too.

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Are these achievements you’ve personally experienced?
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> Slept with super-model

What's the knowledge supposedly required to attain this on your mind?

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About 4 months of reading about PHP in the early 2000s?
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lmfao
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It instills into you the arcane knowledge of how incredibly mundane and unremarkable sex with very beautiful people can be, given that they are also just normal people after all. I suppose. Then again, what do I know - maybe you'll awaken with the answer to everything on the spot?
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    > I forget that most of them don't have the same information diet that I do
It is interesting that you conflate "information diet" with "tech". The biggest info junkies I have ever met are: (1) medical doctors, (2) STEM PhDs, and (3) journalists. There are probably some other categories that I am missing. And almost none of the info they are consuming is "tech".
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I don't think the person you reply to conflates "information diet" with "tech". They are just saying that their information diet consists for a large part of tech news, and other people have other information diets that don't contain that much tech news..
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Isn't "information diet" perfect usage here? The medical doctor's information diet probably consists of different information than the tech enthusiast's, or the STEM PhD's, and the journalist's information diet may consist of more politics and contemporary events. I thought it was a pretty creative and apt word choice
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well probably even your friends know a lot more than "most people". But walk into a random town and ask a random person and I'd wager they'll be about at what I described, on average.
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This is very accurate. I teach seniors about how to use AI responsibly and they are always mind blown, and I keep it very high level. The amount of Chat”GTP” users there are out there that have no idea who the main vendors are. Most of them also think that Google is just a “search” company.
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Wait, isn't it ChatGBD?
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ChatGibbity
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How would I be able to help do something like that?
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People are generally bad with acronyms. For the longest time I used to refer to San Francisco as SFO. On my first visit to Bay Area, I was talking to a local friend and casually said - last weekend, I went to SFO for sightseeing. He was confused and asked why I was sightseeing at the airport. That’s when I realized it’s SF not SFO.
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> Most people don't know about the existence of companies called "OpenAI" or "Anthropic", or that they are worth a lot of money.

I agree with your general premise but that one sounds like bullshit to me. Tons of people who otherwise don't know anything about LLMs know about these companies specifically because they are worth a lot of money, and of course tons of people know who OpenAI is because of ChatGPT.

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You're grossly overestimating how many people care about big companies, at least on a daily basis. Most people don't invest in anything and will never get a job at a big American company. They do know about ChatGPT but that doesn't mean they know who makes it.
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go ask 100 random people across the world and I bet less than 20 will know both those company names.
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They call it "Chatty"
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Even Shingy called chatgpt "chat" when he went on Ed Zitron's show. It was very weird to hear from a guy who has been around tech world for such a long time even if he's non technical.
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I'm a pretty seasoned software dev, but I've also kept the frontier AI race at arms length from myself. I run Claude alongside my day to day workflow but don't really get overly concerned about the latest and greatest models, as I'm not leaning on it to do my job for me I suppose.

In my mind I'm after a stable tool, not wanting to dabble in the bleeding edge. I did that back in the early days of web coding and have settled into a much more subdued kind of industry/life in that regard.

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Everyone calls it chat. I am technical and even I’ve come around to calling it that because that is what everyone, including very technical people, call the product.
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I didn't know who Shingy was. He looks like Jensen Huang's subconscious.
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Shingy, from “Everybody in the club getting Tipsy”?
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Even Shingy. Ia he really the standard for explaining tech to normies? Ouch.
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I think you are overestimating things. While there will be people who don't know - it's probably not as many as you think.
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Over 90% of humanity and that's probably still underestimating it. Most people cannot point on a map where they live. Many people think 'chat' is conscious and being locked up by evil humans: many think 'chat' is a god or aliens communicating with us. And getting worse as people cannot make a sandwich without asking 'chat', let alone learn anything worthwhile.
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> OpenAI

this is unnecessarily austere or whatever - people absolutely know what openai is because lots of "normies" now use chatgpt

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dRE41eYkui4

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I think you are wrong, but of course it's just a guess.
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Chatgpt has 469 million daily active users as of September 2026. Who exactly do you think they are? Martians? Because there aren't half a billion SWEs on planet earth.
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What percent of ChatGPT users do you think know the company behind it is OpenAI? 10%?
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What percent of Instagram users know the company behind it? Like is this even a real question?
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I feel you like you cited that as an example of people knowing companies behind things and you don't realize that very many people do not know that the same company owns Facebook and Instagram...

Corporate structures are things you know about if you follow tech news, but people mostly do not know about them otherwise. They've never heard of "Alphabet" either. Stuff like that.

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That's not even about tech news. I couldn't tell you if Coca cola is part of a bigger group.

Show me any brand in a supermarket and I couldn't tell you who owns them.

When put in these terms it shows it's perfectly normal not to know who's behind chatgpt.

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LOL. The average Instagram user for sure doesn't know the company behind it. Also, "mathisfun", you might not be the typical person on this planet.

Quick test, who makes Mars, Twix, Snickers?

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Oh, you mean the guys that make Whiskas?
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Made no claim that people haven't heard of ChatGPT. Said they haven't heard of OpenAI.
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