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by phoghed1 days ago |

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by speedstyle1 days ago|

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> people want this.

Could you justify this? e.g. https://doi.org/10.1080/17450101.2024.2325386 (N=1890):

"What first comes to mind when you hear the term self-driving vehicles?" (coded free-text) 17% positive, 34% neutral, 49% negative

"How would you feel about riding in a self-driving vehicle instead of the existing ways you travel?" 28% comfortable, 15% neutral, 53% uncomfortable

"How would you feel about using the roads alongside self-driving vehicles?" 29% comfortable, 20% neutral, 49% uncomfortable

by amanaplanacanal1 days ago|

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That was a few years ago. I wonder if feelings have changed as more people get experience with self driving vehicles.

by phoghed1 days ago|

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Looking at the companion reports it seems to me like boomers are bringing the numbers down. Once they die off we’re good to go.

by speedstyle21 hours ago|

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I think the authors above put their opinion well: "Developers of self-driving vehicles work with a particular idea of a possible and desirable future. Members of the public may not share the assumptions on which this is based … Many respondents present alternative representations of relationships between the technology, other road users and the future. Rather than accepting a dominant approach to public engagement, which seeks to educate members of the public away from these views, we instead propose that these views should be seen as a source of social intelligence, with potential constructive contributions to building better transport systems. Anticipatory governance, if it is to be inclusive, should seek to understand and integrate public views rather than reject them as irrational or mutable."

I don't have an issue with autonomous vehicles (though I think we should also reduce the overall proportion of trips by car) but yes, obviously you need societal buy-in. "People want this" into 'some don't but they'll die' is hardly a serious approach to policies that impact everyone.

Anyway, I don't think your interpretation is supported by that data. Every age group responded net negatively, and age wasn't the strongest factor – for instance, women were less than half as likely as men to be comfortable sharing roads with self-driving vehicles

by fn-mote1 days ago|

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> And what do those numbers look up as the saturation of self driving cars increases?

Keep in mind the lesson of seat belts. Which is that the highest-risk drivers are also the least likely to wear a seatbelt.

Selective recruitment is a danger in this armchair analysis, too. I don’t think 18 year olds aren’t giving up the thrill of tearing down side streets at 60mph to use a self-driving car - they probably can’t even afford one. To be honest, I am just guessing at the profile of the biggest offenders but insurance rates seem to back me up.