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> The world is being handed an infinite creation machine that conjures entire worlds into existence, radically reshaping the future of the species and what our descendants will be able to do, and your reply is ~"they took our jobs!"

I didn't even mention anything about economic impacts, jobs, money. It's truer to say my reply is "they destroyed what it is to be human".

Does this really not bother you at all?

by Scaevolus8 hours ago|

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Engineers understand that every technology represents inherent tradeoffs.

by chabes8 hours ago|

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They’re talking about creative expression, not jobs

by augment_me8 hours ago|

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You are free to perform create expression, I love writing blogs, my friends like reading and talking about the blogs with me, I dont care if Claude or GPT can write much better blogs. In the same way if it was just about creative expression, there would actually be 0 problems with AI-generated music, you would keep on making and listening to music you like, and you wouldn't care, but usually its not it, its people who want to make money, get famous, tie their value to the product that complain about this.

by applfanboysbgon7 hours ago|

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> you would keep on making and listening to music you like, and you wouldn't care

It becomes harder to find and therefore listen to music you like when every avenue of discovering music is drowned out with 1000 AI-generated songs for every 1 human-made song.

> people who want to make money,

Is it such a bad thing to want to be able to pursue your creativity full-time? For creative fields that require thousands of hours of practice to achieve results other people will enjoy, should we reserve such skilled expression only to those born wealthy enough to not need to work?

by augment_me7 hours ago|

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> It becomes harder to find and therefore listen to music you like when every avenue of discovering music is drowned out with 1000 AI-generated songs for every 1 human-made song.

Creative expression and consumption of media are different questions. You are right about that, but that's a separate issue.

> Is it such a bad thing to want to be able to pursue your creativity full-time? For creative fields that require thousands of hours of practice to achieve results other people will enjoy, should we reserve such skilled expression only to those born wealthy enough to not need to work?

Welcome to capitalism, enjoy your stay. And if you dont like it, you can always wait for the coming times when informational work is completely automated, which means that traditional social mobility completely disappears, and capital is locked/frozen forever and we will have serfdom instead. So I would recommend you enjoy the present.

by visarga6 hours ago|

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> we will have serfdom instead

Makes no sense - why would anyone use humans as serfs when AI is there. I think everyone will have AI and probably robotic automations, they will all be cheap and accessible.

by augment_me5 hours ago|

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We are still human and have human biases and desires, many humans can be good use to for example let rich people express power, experience sexual pleasures, and other emotions that are pre-wired in us. An AI cant be a good proxy for emotions, you cant whip a machine and know that it feels pain because of you. You cant pin a machine down and know that it can do nothing and has to feel powerless in your hands. You cant slice a machine open and know that it cannot do anything to you. All of this has already happened in the richest circles, you can imagine what happens when everyone has access to cheap robotic automatons, you think the richest people have been content with having what everyone has? Historically?

by yulker8 hours ago|

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But is it stopping creative expression?

by stevage2 hours ago|

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It is devaluing it. Just like you can still paint, and you can still play a musical instrument, but these aren't skills the average person cares about very much anymore. But instead of a couple of skills like that being slowly displaced over decades or centuries, we're seeing dozens and dozens of occupations being rendered completely almost worthless within just a couple of years.

by pdntspa6 hours ago|

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Have you observed the sheer monotony of this avalanche of AI-generated "creative" expression at all?

You have people pumping out an entire album in a few days simply because they can, repeatedly, and then they flood streaming services with their garbage. I forget which network it was but as of a few months ago, AI-generated submissions were at least half of all submissions.

by stevage2 hours ago|

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Yeah, and yet for a lot of people apparently this "garbage" is...good enough...so the human-crafted stuff can hardly compete.

I recently heard an anecdote about a family that finally found a podcast that they all enjoyed listening to on road trips...and only realised when they tried to find out more about the hosts that the whole thing was AI generated. Bam, another field of creative expression (and income!) destroyed.

by applfanboysbgon8 hours ago|

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It's being handed an infinite slop machine, drowning out genuinely good content and making it harder than ever to discover. As it becomes harder to discover, fewer talented creatives are able to make a living. We are destroying our own culture with a machine that enforces regression to the mean on creativity.

by mindcandy5 hours ago|

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Check it out: As millions of people have recognized, we have a new discoverability problem! How about, out of the 9 billion people on Earth, we figure out how to get a few dozen of them motivated to work on that instead of sitting and moping for the rest of our lives about the end of human creativity?