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by dmazzoni4 hours ago |
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upvoteby hypendev52 minutes ago|
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And, importantly, this was 2008.

Most of the modern software tooling you have today wasn't available back then, from great IDE's to popular libraries, writing software in 2008 was a different beast compared to today.

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upvoteby Epa09545 minutes ago|
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Tja, besides LLMs I can't really see the major improvement todays IDEs and language combination brings over Eclipse+Java. Great docs, good autocomplete, good compiler feedback.
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upvoteby tonyedgecombe26 minutes ago|
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Yes, IntelliJ 8 was out in 2008. From my experience most of the progress since then has been keeping up with language and library updates.
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upvoteby conradfr4 hours ago|
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And it was a fork.
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upvoteby wiseowise3 hours ago|
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Rubbish. Most of the stuff you’re listing is handled by OS and frameworks themselves, you don’t need hundreds of SE to handle RTL or a11y. I work in one of those companies, most people just regurgitate existing shit into another form of shit and collect salary (not complaining, as I’m one of them, but let’s be honest).
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upvoteby NavekG2 hours ago|
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The original Edge had to switch over to Chromium because it was hard to build a compliant accessible browser from scratch and this is Microsoft we are talking about.
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upvoteby necovek2 hours ago|
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> ...this is Microsoft we are talking about.

Exactly!

More seriously, it not just about building a compliant web browser engine, it is about tracking the dominant browser engine which introduces their own "standards" along the way too.

Microsoft could have easily continued to invest in maintaining their browser engine, but it would have to be comparable to what Google is doing, and yet they'd always be perceived as "behind" due to non-dominant position they have.

I'd say strategically they do not want to invest in tech that's not winning (in marketshare), so when they are not dominant, they'll instead adopt and extend (not just web browsers, look at WSL too).

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upvoteby stephenr1 hours ago|
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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18697824

> one of the reasons we decided to end EdgeHTML was because Google kept making changes to its sites that broke other browsers, and we couldn't keep up

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upvoteby PunchyHamster1 hours ago|
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The didn't had to, MS Browser team was incompetent from the beginning of internet
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upvoteby sgammon2 hours ago|
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We live in a time now where libraries are free and plentiful and pretty good. It is easy to forget that this was not the case for the vast majority of time that computers have existed.

Chrome’s original design definitely predates our current rich ecosystem. Plus, V8 and Chrome’s performance profile are demanding enough that there would be a pretty high bar for those dependencies anyway.

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upvoteby lynx972 hours ago|
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This is plain wrong. For a browser, a11y doesn't just get handled by the OS automatically. In general, claiming a11y is easy or will be done by someone else is bordering on evil.
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upvoteby whstl2 hours ago|
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